Is it THAT bad?
Should Dress Code Matter?
By Kickntrue on 8/14/08
We like GolfGirl's site. She posts good material on a lot of subjects we don't touch. Today though, I have a bone to pick. She posted a picture she took at a private club she either attended or has a membership to (maybe she'll clarify for us) of a younger golfer who showed up wearing camo cargo shorts and flip flops.

She seems pretty riled up that he would have the gull:
Subject:Dress Code Violator of the Day
Importance: High

This guy had Baggy skateboard Camouflage Cargo shorts. Shoes: (non visible) Flip Flops. Shirt: street, un-tucked, rolled up sleeves. His buddies did not look much better.

[Redacted] told them nicely that they had to conform and buy some clothes in the proshop. Three cheers for [Redacted]. I nominate him for employee of the month.

Enforcing the dress code is the answer to this problem.
I just don't agree with this. I realize their is something to be said for it being a private club (I guess), but I just don't get the beef with dress code issues. Once you tee off NOBODY sees you. Why not dress how you normally dress and be comfortable while you play outside in heat for 5 hours? Granted- he doesn't look like a golfer- from the picture she provided, but I can assure you his outfit he's wearing cost more than anything I wear golfing x2. He looks dressed "normal" for a preppy rich pretty boy.

I hate to keep going back to this- but with all of the problems golf is having to grow the sport- is this really something that needs to be an issue? If a person is paying- I don't care if they wear a tank top and daisy dukes (as a guy even!).

Dress Code At GolfGirl


[ comments ]
mbills1015 says:
you not caring about guys wearing tank tops and daisy dukes sounds more like a personal issue... but I digress. I feel like there is a stereotypical golf attire that should be worn. With that being said cargo shorts whether camo or not should be fine and he's wearing a collared shirt. That's two major criteria met for the stereotypical golf outfit.
Secondly if he was wearing camo shorts, how could she see them?
8/14/08
 
Kickntrue says:
I think many people will agree that people SHOULD wear stereotypical golf attire as you call it.. my simple question is, Why?
8/14/08
 
mbills1015 says:
b/c golf was established as a gentlemans game... even the pros can't wear shorts. Its the gentlemans game aura that still says wearing nice close and looking respectable is proper golf attire. Besides what's so wrong with wearing shorts and a collared shirt. I feel pretty comfortable wearing that when I play.
8/14/08
 
ForeKris says:
i agree with a dress code. the code should just be neat. John Daly wears "typical golf attire" but i don't consider that neat.
8/14/08
 
possingk says:
I read the same blog, and would love to hear what she thinks of my kilt and polo shirt combo for golfing.
Luckily for me not golf course I have played has had a problem with my 'golf attire'. Since I started wearing kilts full time I have four pairs of pants for work, and my kilts. I would have to buy clothes in the proshop as well if refused (actually I would probably just leave).
8/14/08
 
hogan72 says:
I'm not sure I agree 100% with this, but here's a common viewpoint:

Appropriate attire conveys that you have respect for the course, the game and your fellow golfers. When one sees a neatly attired golfer, one assumes that golfer has good etiquette. When one sees a disheveled golfer, one assumes that golfer has poor etiquette.

May or may not be true, but when mr_hungry shows up to the course in cargo shorts, I assess him a two stroke penalty and then hit a nice crisp 3 iron off the first tee! (hell, I'm already up 2 strokes!)
8/14/08
 
possingk says:
Link to picture since I know it will be the next question linuxkei.startlogic.com//GolfScores/score0612200
8/14/08
 
kkjacks says:
From the looks of it the course mentioned above is a pretty upscale private course. Being such this course is much more than a place to play golf. Its often a place to do business, have social gatherings, etc. In this case yes you should dress the part. After all you would not walk into a white tablecloth restaurant with cargo shorts and flip flops. On the other side there are plenty of courses that are simply put, just golf courses (these are the places that I play). These type courses would have no problem with anyone being dressed as shown above just like McDonald's also would not care about "tank tops and daisy dukes".
8/14/08
 
psche00 says:
Me and John Daly tee off naked together at our private club and no one seems to mind.
8/14/08
 
mantajim says:
Rules are rules, if the club/course has a dress code it should be followed. If this dude's dress doesn't fit the code, send him packing. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who play "sorta golf" on and off the course. I'm a member of a private club, paid a substantial initiation fee and monthly dues and expect the rules of the club I agreed to, to be followed by all members and guests.
8/14/08
 
klangdon says:
golf has an image problem. regardless of whether or not you agree with these rules, they perpetuate that image problem.

i personally disagree with these rules because they discriminate on the basis of socioeconomic class. the courses that enforce these rules are promoting classism and argueably racism.
8/14/08
 
kidputter says:
Such big words. I live in Arizona and it's almost impossible to conform with some of the dress codes in place out here in the summer. Almost every course has a 'no denim, collared shirt' policy. I don't know about the private clubs, not wealthy enough to visit.
8/14/08
 
golfgirl says:
Actually, I posted that "memo" on the run this morning (on my way down to Greenwich to meet my Father at the club for lunch)

It was actually a memo that a friend of mine, who's on the board of an exclusive west coast country club sent to fellow board members. He knows I'm interested in the topic of golf attire and dress codes so he sent it on as an FYI.

I'm going to update my post with an explaination.
8/14/08
 
TaylorFade says:
This is elitist bull(redacted). Collar? Yes. Denim or cutoffs? No. Let the guy play. What's next? Certain brands of clubs or balls only? Usga headcovers only? Certain handicaps only???

You say the guy should get EOM; I say the guy should get reprimanded for discrimination. I think its especially telling that he demanded they buy something from the pro shop. Like Wal-Mart slacks and a 1987 Izod polo wouldn't be good enough.

Club, swing, ball. Not bank account, wardrobe, social status.

I understand Golf Girl has a pet peeve with dress code, but it easy to be critical in a sleeveless shirt and mini skirt.

Slacks and a sweater vest do not a gentleman make.
8/14/08
 
ToddRobb says:
Personally, I like very much getting "dressed up" to play. I think it adds to the spirit of the game. Even though, I sweat like a filthy animal when I'm on the course in the summer. When I'm finished you would think I just ran a marathon. The guys I play golf with now I met on the golf course, when we met, they were wearing dingy clothes all the time until I told them they had to step up their wardrobes. For a little while we even awarded a skin for best dressed(I know that's a bit much). That being said, I don't think clubs should have to have a dress code, it should just be a part of playing. I never understood how they can choose what is inappropriate. I think you should be able to wear whatever you want, but I also think that you should want to wear something appropriate.
8/14/08
 
PapaJoe says:
Wow, this is the first time I agree with EVERYBODY! Including the guy in the photo. Now, if he played in flip flops, it only shows what kind of class, or "classless", act this individual wishes to display, which, in my opinion, is: "Forget you. I'll do and wear what I damn well please! I could care less what anybody thinks!"

My question to GolfGirl: "Why did you single out this particular guy for a photograph? Did you shoot the photo exclusively to post on oobGolf knowing it would create all kinds of varied, some critical, some not, responses? Can't wait to read your post with an explanation knowing you have already fueled some sort of fire.
8/14/08
 
golfgirl says:
I like ToddRobb's take. Getting "dressed up" does add to the spirit of the game. Ben Hogan knew that, so did Walter Hagen and Payne Stewart. Oh and to clarify, I didn't take that photo, my friend did, I just posted it as PJ suggests to explore the reaction to this controversial subject. It's quite interesting. Oh and BTW, I think the kilt is awesome, possingk.
8/14/08
 
kidputter says:
If you want more people interested in golf, you need to lighten up on the past. Walter Hagen, Bobby Jones, Ben Hogan lived in a suit-n-tie era. We are in the shorts-n-t-shirt era. I'm more appalled by what I see the kids at my 8 year old's school wearing than the clothes an adult wears on the golf course. Just another topic to fire into the mix.
8/14/08
 
falcon50driver says:
Yeah ! Why should we have to get all dressed up, like we're going to Wal Mart or something, Just to play golf. Das jus rong.
8/14/08
 
golfgirl says:
Actually I agree with Todd, it shouldn't have to be a dress code, it should be an attitude.
8/15/08
 
fxcjr01 says:
Over the last several years the number of golfers, those playing 8 rounds a year or more has declined or at best stayed the same and courses have closed faster than new courses have opened.

However the people who run these private and semi-private courses continue to do things that will push away potential future golfers with old outdated rules about how golfers should dress thereby these golfing eltist continue to imply that some people are not good enough to play golf on their golf courses.

I think we need to do more to encourage people to play more even if they show up in cargo pants and flip flops or no shirts and jeans (John Daly) or Bikini's or three peice suits. If more people are encouraged to show up golf might reverse the trend of the last several years and start growing instead of the decline it has been on for several years.

If the number of people golfing each year stays the same with the population continuing to grow each year then golf is actually in decline.
8/15/08
 
hogan72 says:
This discussion is so much more entertaining than reading about your Presidential race!!
8/15/08
 
mbills1015 says:
To say that golf is declining due to dress code requirements is a bit far fetched. I would say golf is in the decline due to the cost of playing on a weekly basis, combined with the cost of equipment. It is way more a cost issue then a, "I don't want to wear shorts and a collared shirt today... I'm not playing golf." If we want golf to grow and expand we need to make the sport more cost effective for all involved. Cost effectiveness = growth
8/15/08
 
Ben Crane says:
I don't remember seeing "Improper attire" listed on that Golfing Pet Peeves thread we had a week or so ago.
8/15/08
 
klangdon says:
mbills, doesn't enforcing a dress code hurt cost effectiveness. The only reason I buy polo shirts is to play golf, so aren't they as much a cost of the game as my driver is? even if you already own clothes that meet the dress codes, i think its an image thing. requiring customers to dress up creates and image of upper class and expensive.

dress codes increase the cost of golf and worse make it appear much more expensive than it actually is.
8/15/08
 
mbills1015 says:
I will agree that dress codes may appear more expensive than it actually is, however when you look at all sports in general, some form of dress code is required. BBall, baseball, soccer all have there own sport specific "dress code." My point was that for the most part everyone has a polo and shorts laying around the house. So i think it is less about what people have to wear and more about what people have to spend, that is causing the decline in golfers. Especially when you can go play any of the above named sports for free.
8/15/08
 
ToddRobb says:
There will always be golf courses where it's going to be against "policy" to wear cargo shorts and or tee shirts. I don't think it has anything to do with the cost or anything like that. I have t-shirts that I've paid more for than golf shirts. The fact of the matter is private courses pride themselves on being the upper crust, it stands to reason they would hold their members and guest to a higher standard. If you can afford to join a private club, you can certainly afford a collard shirt.
8/15/08
 
ToddRobb says:
The thing that surprises me the most is the amount of people here that have a problem with wearing "proper attire". I think it was pretty cool back in the day when they wore ties and knickers, it separated golf from any other sport in a very unique way. The private golf courses are trying to hold on to the last thing they can fully control. I say if someone chooses not to pick up the game of golf because they don't want to wear the "proper attire", they obviously don't get it, and should consider just going to the driving range only.
8/15/08
 
ToddRobb says:
On another note, I don't quite understand why anyone would care if the golf industry has no growth. Unless you make a living off of the golf industry, why would we want to have to wait 3 hours after signing the walk-on list? The people that play golf now, are players. A few years ago you had a lot of people that were not golfers that played golf, which added hours to your day on the course. Just like the cigar industry, the people that still smoke cigars are smokers, not just someone that got caught up in the hype.
8/15/08
 
mr_hungry says:
Well clubs can do whatever they want, sure. I do find the cargo shorts ban a little strange. So other shorts are fine? is there such a thing as dress shorts?

Caddies on the PGA Tour can wear shorts now. I wonder if they have to wear dress shorts...
8/15/08
 
ToddRobb says:
The private clubs are in denial with the dress code they enforce. I went to a course where you couldn't wear a Nike $65 mock neck, but they sold them in the pro shop,,,, what's up with that???
8/15/08
 
kkjacks says:
I completely disagree with the "dress code adding to the cost of the game" argument. The dress code simply states no denim and a collared shirt. No where in that statement does it say you need Brooks Brothers brand clothing. Anyone that can afford to play golf can certainly afford a generic brand outfit to play in.
8/15/08
 
sindigo says:
Wow...I really don't see how non-denim shorts and a collared shirt are disciminatory. Good lord, you can go to Walmart and get a pair of tan shorts and a polo shirt for under $15. If you can't afford that then I really wonder how you can afford to pay the green/cart fees...much less your clubs (even rentals) and some golf balls to play the round with.
8/15/08
 
golfgirl says:
I think as long as you look "good"... can't describe it - you know it when you see it "good"... you'll pas, no matter what the dress code is.
8/15/08
 
PapaJoe says:
Did I read somewhere in all the above comments that girls in bikinis should be allowed on the golf course to play golf? Yes!!!! Golfgirl... start the trend and post more photos! EVERYONE, female golfers included, take your wives, (why not?), girlfriends, gal friends, and any other female that will agree with wearing a bikini on the golf course out to play! Take photos. Send them to oobGolf. Let's see and hear comments about those. Then there should be something to talk about!!! Oh wait.... I see a problem right away. Where to pocket your golf balls? Oh well, I'm sure you'll find a place. Give it a go gals!
8/15/08
 
TheBrownCrayon says:
There is a private club south of Austin that requires their guests to wear pants on the course. Is it a dumb rule, of course, especially when your buddy, the member, is playing in shorts, but it is a private course and they have the right to make their own rules. If you want to golf there, you have to follow said rules.

Oh and bikinis on the golf course?!?! Can I get an amen!
8/17/08
 
prayerdog says:
I totally agree with the "dress code"...ie no denim and no t-shirts..golfing is performed in a *working* establishment, there are people working there...I think it just provides for a "clean-line" look and keeps all pleasing to the eye...it also simply shows respect for the rules established to keep the place from looking like just another "hangout"...I think when you are playing golf, you are in some sort of competition....even if just from your own previous score card,...not sure of any other sport where there is no *dress code* during competition JMO :-)...also, I agree with the folks on the lower # of Golfers...it is not the dress code keeping most people from playing...it is the price and the time involved to get to play....I have never heard anyone say..."I am not interested playing golf today due to the dress code"....again, JMO...
8/17/08
 
klangdon says:
I can play 9 holes of golf for the cost of a movie. I know thats not the reality everywhere, but my point is that golf really isn't that expensive. People just THINK that golf is expensive and its a "rich man's sport". This idea and image comes partly do to the fact that golf maintains a country club mentality and does things like enforce a dress code.
8/17/08
 
ToddRobb says:
klangdon, I'm just trying to understand your point, you're saying you think that golf isn't really that expensive, it just appears that way, and there are people out there that "think" golf is expensive so they're not going to pick up the game? And if not for the "dress code", golf would be growing instead of declining?

I'm sorry, but that's just crazy talk. Golf is expensive, to pick up the game correctly, you would have to fork over at least a grand for quality clubs, bag, shoes, balls, and that's before even considering what to wear.
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
A friend that I play with lives in a different county in the same state, it cost him 50 plus dollars to play whenever he plays at my home course, and that's to walk. There are several factors contributing to the decline of golf, I just think the "dress code" is at the bottom of the list, if it's on the list at all.
8/18/08
 
terpsno1 says:
The thing that bothers me is that the rules seems so arbitrary & change based on peoples perception.

It used to be a collared shirt was the rule - but now that the designer companies are selling (and the pros are wearing) these dry tech shirts without collars - collarless is OK now.

I play at a friends club where you have to tuck in your shirt - what difference does it make whether my shirt is tucked or not - If Tiger/Sergio started playing with untucked shirts that had Addidas logos on the shirt tail - they would change that rule as well

I understand not wanting someone on the course with cut-0ff jeans & a Motly crue T-Shirt but I think alot of these dress code rules are pretencious & unnecessary

Whats next - they going to tell us how to cut our hair - well, I guess I would be OK with a no Mullet rule
8/18/08
 
klangdon says:
I never said that dress code is THE reason golf is on the decline. I do feel that it is A reason golf is declining.

Look at the above story. A struggling business is turning away customers and pissing them off in the process. Thats something that needs fixed.
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
If Alice Cooper can conform to the "dress code", who can't??? If one of my friends showed up at the course wearing what the dude in the picture is wearing, I'd be pissed at him, not the course or club.
8/18/08
 
mfritts says:
I'd much rather see some one fix a ball mark than be concerned over whether they are wearing jeans... in my mind that's golf etiquette.
8/18/08
 
birdieXris says:
i'm with fritts.
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
I still don't think courses should need a "dress code", true golfers know the etiquette of what to wear, it's the hacks that haven't been shown the game properly that force courses into coming up with a dress code.
8/18/08
 
falcon50driver says:
It's not really about the clothes. It's about the person. If a person doesn't have enough self respect to dress properly, he's not going to give a damn about the greens, or the carts, or the other players there either.
8/18/08
 
Ben Crane says:
A course I play in Oakland Mills, PA, Lost Creek, wouldn't have any business if they enforced a dress code. Last time I played there I followed a guy in a camo hat, camo shirt and boots. BOOTS! He looked like he just came from gutting a deer and probably shot a 130 from what I could see of his shots.
8/18/08
 
Craig Bailey says:
Respect the game. The game will respect you.

If the shorts stop at your knees no problem, who cares if they are cargos..
Collared shirts are a must!
I still struggle with the tuck myself, but I can appreciate it when it is enforced at a private club.
Here in LA, guys play without shirts at muni courses. Not many but I have seen a few. As you can imagine their game matches they're bodies...BAD.
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
Ben, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You can't tell me that it didn't bother you even just a little bit. I have a question for this forum: Have you EVER seen someone dressed inappropriately on the golf course shoot a score below 90? I'm just curious.

If you can't honor the etiquette of the game, how can you expect to play the game well?
8/18/08
 
terpsno1 says:
Yes - I've seen some Denim & tee shirt guys that could really play - on the Muni courses around here.

Breaking 80 not 90
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
terp, you know guys that wear Denim to the course?? oookay...
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
I just broke out in a sweat thinking about wearing denim on the course for 4 plus hours. I sweat enough as it is in my cargo shorts:)
8/18/08
 
klangdon says:
I know people that don't dress to "code" and score in the 80s and even 70s. Thinking that dress has anything to do with your game is as old fashioned as thinking that dress reflects your value in business or as an employee.
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
When you say dress to "code", do they look like the guy in the picture? Also, are any of these 80's and 70's shooters here on oob?
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
any of the 80's and 70's shooter that don't dress to "code"
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
Don't forget, "code" is just a shirt with a collar and no denim.
8/18/08
 
kidputter says:
Home of the free. Public courses are for the PUBLIC. There's no dress code to go to the mall or a restaurant. People should just have the decency and good common sense to dress appropriately. If they choose not to, my opinion is they were raised to be disrespectful to society. It's not just the golf courses.
8/18/08
 
mfritts says:
Let's say I'm working around the house, wearing jeans and a t-shirt and a buddy calls and says let's go shoot some golf. I'd love to just grab my shoes and golf bag and hit it. Frankly, in this life that rarely happens, but it would not reflect on how I was raised or my love or respect for the game or society.
8/18/08
 
kidputter says:
If your buddy invited you to a Basketball game, would you shower and change? Same principle in my mind.
8/18/08
 
mfritts says:
A high school game, I probably wouldn't hit the shower; NBA game I no doubt would. There's the point, for a Country Club or nicer course I would definately dress the part, but to head out to a local public course, I generally dress the part, but don't feel I should have to do it.
8/18/08
 
ToddRobb says:
Is it really that hard to put on a shirt with a collar and a decent pair of shorts??? My goodness, what's the world coming to??

Klangdon, I'm surprised to here you say "thinking that dress has anything to do with your game is old fashioned". There is a direct correlation with someone that respects the game and their scores. Look at John Daly, one could argue that he doesn't respect the game, he's ranked 692 in the world rankings. Don't get it twisted, it's about respect for the game, not the actual clothing.
8/18/08
 
falcon50driver says:
Clothes make the man!
8/18/08
 
falcon50driver says:
Or so the quote goes.....
8/18/08
 
falcon50driver says:
I pilot a private jet to Mexico frequently, and I can decide what the crew wears. I have done some trips wearing Slacks and Golf shirts, which is our usual dress in the U.S. However, when we wear our uniforms with epaulets, shoulder bars, gold wings, and name tags, we get infinitely better service and respect. The guys wearing the shorts and flip flops are the last to get fuel, ice, coffee, and newspapers.
8/18/08
 
kidputter says:
Private jet to Mexico? After some of your posts I really wonder about the cargo.
8/18/08
 
sindigo says:
I'm with ToddRobb. I happily comply to the dress code. I do it out of respect for the game, respect to the facility I am playing/practicing, and respect to the other golfers at the course.
8/19/08
 
TaylorFade says:
Playing on my muni's it's cargos and an LSU T-shirt and you have seen my scoring average. I've got a long goatee and never tuck in my shirt. Do I look like a golfer? No. Do I play like a golfer? I'll let you decide.

I repair my ball marks (+1), rake the bunkers and fill my divots. If there is a dress code- I respect it, but you aren't going to find me on the cover of fashionable male.

I respect the game on the course- not from my closet.

You ever see "White Men Can't Jump"? I'm the Woody Harrelson of the golf course.
8/19/08
 
hogan72 says:
Yo TF, "It's HARD GD work making it look this EASY!"
8/19/08
 
ToddRobb says:
say it ain't so Taylor, say it aint so.. LSU t-shirt????? Dude, you're better than that!!! It looks like you play two or three time a week, what do you have one golf shirt?? Judging from your post I would have never thought you were a Hack. (see my thread on the forum on the subject) . Trust me, I wear cargo shorts all the time, I love the pockets for all the golf stuff I carry while playing, but a college T-shirt??!! You're Better than that. Who knows, maybe if you gave the game the respect it deserves you be a scratch golfer:)
8/19/08
 
TaylorFade says:
Trust me, if I thought it would cut strokes- I would play in a tuxedo.

Seriously though, if you played the tracks we play on a weekly basis you would not feel the need to get dressed up either. There aren't any million dollar mergers going on at Dumas.

If you look at my "images" you will see my typical "no dress code" attire. I'll understand if y'all don't wanna be friends with a scrub anymore, but... "You miss and you'll get beat by a slow, white, geeky chump."
8/19/08
 
PapaJoe says:
Way to go TaylorFade! I hope those T's have a few holes and pizza and beer stains on them somewhere. Now that's class!

It ain't hard being chumpy just don't get grumpy while playin' at the muni's or clubs in the country. Watch my dust while I putt my stuff but don't bitch about my clothes when u ain't got no pose, at the finish that is, so don't get in my biz.... uh, uh.... uh, uh!
8/19/08
 
ToddRobb says:
Taylor, I must admit, you look pretty damn comfortable in those pictures. BTW, Love the nickname for your son, you should trademark it or at least buy the domain if it's available. Your wife saves par from the sand?? She's a keeper!
8/19/08
 
ToddRobb says:
Taylor, how about this, the next time you play at Dumas you wear the nicest golf outfit you own. Report back to us your honest assessment on whether or not you looked at your track and or your round in a different way, and thus "played better". I'm from the school of "you got to dress the part". I don't think the course you're playing is what should determine whether or not you give the game it's due.
8/19/08
 
PapaJoe says:
TaylorFade: If your "Images" pix are your regular attire on the golf course and you shoot in the 70's most of the time... will a better dress attire equal you a better score? Don't think so! I play with a couple guys at one of the muni's in Louisville, who put me, and some of the local pros, to shame with their scores! And believe me, their dress code leaves a lot to be desired. Although I would never wear what they do, or even a tuxedo if it made me score better, I still respect those guys for their game... not their dress!

I invited one of those guys to play one of Louisville's most prestigious golf courses and believe it or not, he showed up dressed to the "nines". And still beat the hell out of me and the assistant pro who played with us. So, when all is said and done, who gives a crap how people dress on the golf course? Answer: Only elitist snobs! Happy balls to all!
8/20/08
 
cdm says:
No doubt it's elitist. Denim was developed for work clothes, that's where "blue collar" came from. But denim has moved upscale - some jeans cost more than dress pants these days.

I am president of a private club that is as traditional as they come - 1895, one of our founders was VP under Taft, etc. This year we decided to define the dress code as "clean, comfortable and tasteful attire" and leave it up to the members. Guess what? Most members are dressing the way that they always have. We do have a couple of members who are really upset about the change, but they are struggling to make their case, because they don't want to admit that they're being elitist, and there's really not much of a logical case to be made for banning specific clothing styles. Whatever limits you set will always be tested in unanticipated ways - kilts, dashikis, turbans, camo, etc. It's really a superficial way to judge people, and you shouldn't be judging other people anyway.
6/21/10
 
cdm says:
Another point is, when you dictate to people what they should wear, you deny them the privilege of making the choice for themselves, and in a way that's demeaning. Better to set the expectation and let people express themselves accordingly. ToddRobb had it right when he said that they guy in the picture is speaking for himself, not the club. And yeah, he looks like a slob. So be it. He might be a great guy or he might be a jerk, and his sartorial style may be a clue to that, but it's not necessarily a determining factor. A gentleman in jeans is far less offensive than a boor in a business suit.
6/21/10
 
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