Your Take On Shafts
By Kickntrue on 3/23/09
How much does the shaft in your driver (or other clubs) matter? I feel like we constantly talk about our loft, our lie angle and how much MOI our driver has, but we don't talk about the shaft much more than its flex.

I was recently sent a couple shafts from Graphite Designs and put them into extra drivers I had. While I was really impressed with the results, I do wonder how much of that was because I was exchanging a Stiff flex with another Stiff flex so it still worked out well. There is just so much "technology" in a shaft (according to the shaft companies) but so little concern from the end user. Do golfers just assume their manufacturers will pick what's best and let them do the research?

I'd love opinions/feedback. I'm genuinely curious.

If you aren't too familiar with shafts and want a basic level of understanding this is a pretty good article from About.com. - Understanding Golf Club Shaft Flex


[ comments ]
twood says:
The shaft matters much more than the thing stuck to the bottom end of it!
3/23/09
 
Kickntrue says:
Okay- from the standpoitn of saying "I buy that", I'm there. But how do you pick? Do you trial and error or do you research and know what's good for you? I just feel like its the one aspect that nobody knows about and even if you try to "research", its just a mess of terms I don't understand.
3/23/09
 
BlaqShamrokk says:
I think the shaft is a big difference.
I have a 65 gram Regular shaft and its perfect for me.
I just get fitted at a golf store and play the next day.
3/23/09
 
falcon50driver says:
At our local golf store demo day, there was a guy doing trick shots. You may have seen him on TV. He hits a variety of shots with drivers of varying length of shafts from 6 inches up to 10 feet. One driver had a 4 foot rope for a shaft, one was a chain, and one was a rubber rod. He hit off tees from 1 inch to 3 feet tall. Funny thing, every shot was center of the fairway and all looked to be about 200 or more yards, go figure. One shot that landed in the same vicinity was made with a putter.
3/23/09
 
svj says:
the shaft is everything, honestly... you can go out a buy corba,callway,taylor made,etc, to see not much difference in distance. then all sudden, you go to a harder tip or a lower kick-point to watch and see a change in traj. which i think that is where distance can be found... sorry, maybe i am wrong, but i went to xstiff from just having a stiff shaft with mid. kick-point. from watching a somewhat ballon ball to a much flatter ball flight...
3/23/09
 
ToddRobb says:
The shaft of the club is pretty much the engine in the car. The club head being the steering wheel, and the grip being the tires. All are very important, but the engine determines the actual performance. One of the best things you can do for your game is get professionally fitted for your clubs by a computer program. They take video of your swing to determine your swing speed, ball flight, lie angle etc.. They offer the service at Golfsmith.

If you are using the wrong shaft for your swing, you are not getting the best out of your equipment, which will translate into at least 4 or 5 extra stokes per round on average depending on your ability. Why do you think there are equipment trailers for almost every company at every tour event?
3/24/09
 
falcon50driver says:
No No No, The head is the Tire, the shaft is the transmission, the grip is the steering wheel, You are the engine.
3/24/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Clubs are marketed by the head, so we generally call them by that - just like with cars (not engines, tires, etc.) So, I play Mizuno MP-60s. However, when someone sees me crush 5-iron 200+yds with a penetrating ball flight and stop on the green (allow a tiny bit of braggadocio), they don't understand. I have to explain it by talking about the stiff shafts, the position of the ball in the stance, the workability of the forged head, and my swing speed.
When someone plays center position with old worn out PingEyes, soft flex, and slow swing speed - they're going to get sloppy innefective trajectories and spin.

What I would like to know is what would cost to try different shafts? It seems like quite an investment. Demo clubs usually only have minimal choices - same shaft reg/ or stf.

The Callaway FTI system has made me interested in shafts. Why does one cost $99 and one $299? For just the shaft? Is more expensive better? Do I need a lower kick point? Or am I fine?
3/24/09
 
mmontisano says:
last month i got fitted for a new driver. i believe the shaft is everything because i was getting greater distance, tighter shot dispersion and lower spin rates just by switching out only the shaft. proof is in the numbers and they were showing that it can make a difference.
3/24/09
 
ToddRobb says:
Merlin, If the club is the car, how can I be the engine?
3/24/09
 
falcon50driver says:
I build drag race engines for one of my hobbies. I'm just continuing with your analogy. The guy swinging the club is what makes the ball go. The more power you have the farther the ball will go. YOU are the engine that makes it happen. Big engines in cars are not too effective unless you can get to power to the ground. The tires push against the ground, the clubhead pushes against the ball. There are several kinds of shafts,transmissions, that transmit this power from the engine to the tires,standard,or automatic. It's all a bit silly But I think you get my drift. Don't forget to put a leather grip on your steering wheel.
3/24/09
 
ToddRobb says:
In my analogy the club IS the car, but I get your point.
3/24/09
 
falcon50driver says:
I thought it was cool for you to make the comparison , cars are a special interest to me.
3/24/09
 
TWUES17 says:
Was swinging a regular my entire life, with varying degrees of success. Mostly just spraying the ball everywhere. Got fitted in a callaway performance center for an xstiff. Feels like swinging a telephone pole (which is kind of awesome), but my trajectory is much more consistent, dispersion is limited and I gained a bit of distance. I think there's something to be said about being fitted for a shaft that is right for your swing.
3/25/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Yes, that's it! Limited dispersion, consistant trajectory!
3/26/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Yes, cars. I was saying that If you say you drive a Honda, or Volvo, or whatever (which is how people describe their cars initially), but then someone comments on the performance, you need to go into the detail about the components... "well, it's got a 5 cylinder hydrostatic turbo with...." In fact those elements: engine, tires, steering column, suspenstion, transmission) are more important than the "make" and may be independent of the make, but we still say we drive a... MGA 1600, 1960 Lemans replica (which has more to do with paint, etc.).
What fuel is best before a round, during?
I think... Before: omelet (mushroom, ham, cheddar, jalepeno, onion) and latte (at least 1 hr before), and during a round: banana, sweetened tea, apple.
And then there's after....
3/26/09
 
onedollarwed says:
above, I'm lending support to shaft significance and the human element independent of club make, loft, groove shape. Just in case it wasn't clear. Ok, it wasn't clear.
3/26/09
 
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