"Cheap" Aces
By Kickntrue on 4/24/09
I've been wondering and figured our readers are opinionated enough to help out. Is hitting a hole in one on a par-3 or executive course "cheap?" Should it get the same love?

There are two kinds of short course we see a lot of on oob. One is the par-3 course where all of the holes (usually just 9) are short par 3's in the range of 70-120 yards. The other is the executive course that ends up being about half par 3's and half par 4's. The par 3's are often of "championship length" but there are more of them.

I'm torn on par-3 courses because taking half sand wedges at 9 holes in a row seems more like practice than something worthy of being celebrated. At the same time- I don't make many 75 yard wedges from the fairway. The executive course par 3's seem "legit" to me except for the fact that you just get more chances. The rarity of an ace often comes from the fact that you only get 4 chances a round. When that number is 9 or 10 it seems logical to think a hole in one is more likely, and therefore not as big a deal. Still- if I drain one from 150 yards and I'm on an executive course- feel free to hit me up for drinks, because I'm buying!


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dlouder says:
Thus far, I have only had 1 ace. It was on a 18-hole par 3 course. It was also my very first time with a golf club in my hand. That day, on the tee-box of 13, with my Grandfather beside me (and his jaw on the ground) will forever be one of my most memorable moments in my life. So I might be a bit biased when I say an ace is an ace. Even if I ever (miraculously) ace a par-5, that day at Par3 will always trump it, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
4/24/09
 
Ben Crane says:
My only ace came on a Par-3 course's 113yd hole. I don't mention it to friends when the discussion comes up on the golf course as I don't consider it legit. To each his own. Count it or not - it is still a heck of a golf shot.
4/24/09
 
Chosen12b says:
I agree with dlouder!! :)
4/24/09
 
ToddRobb says:
I've been playing for more than 20 years and have never gotten one, but I don't think it would mean as much to me on anything less than a regular course.
4/24/09
 
Changed out says:
I think that my first hole in one that I got when I was 15 at my home course was a cheap ace. The hole was only about 130 yards long. I had played the hole hundreds of times and when I finally get a hole in on it's on a skanked 9 iron that hit the front of the green skipped once and bounced in. It was in a tournament though. I definetly celebrated it and won't ever forget it, but it wasn't the prettiest thing in the world either. I really think as long as you feel good about it then no one can call it cheap.
4/24/09
 
mbills1015 says:
I agree with ToddRobb --- an ace on an executive course, while something to be excited about is not the same as an ace on a regulation course. My question to those of you who have an ace... when someone asks if you've had a hole in one what is your answer and do you feel the need to explain that it was on a par 3 or executive course. If you feel the need to explain as opposed to just saying yes, then there's your answer --- they don't carry the same merit.
4/24/09
 
Changed out says:
I've never played a Par 3 course. I think that it could also depend on the length of the Hole as well. Say you play a Par 3 course with a 220 yard hole and you ace it how could anyone not be proud of them selves for that?
4/24/09
 
mjaber says:
The par3 I typically play seems to be different than most. The hole lengths range from 110- 225 yards. A hole-in-one there, to me, is the same as a hole-in-one on a regular course. A hole-in-one at a pitch-and-putt par 3, while still exciting, wouldn't feel quite the same, I don't think. It's still a hole-in-one, and should be viewed as one, but I'd rather pitch in for birdie or eagle from 75 yards on a regular course than get a hole-in-one on a pitch-and-putt.
4/24/09
 
PingRhoda says:
To me an ace is an ace. But I would have to agree with mjaber. Much rater chip in for eagle or birdie on a regulation course.
4/24/09
 
JWHpurist says:
The whole point is the pleasure of one accurate shot into the cup from any distance greater than 120 yd. In 50 years I have two Aces; #1 147 yd. with green 40' below tee, #2 215 yd. with green 35' above tee. Both required skill and accuracy and generated a great deal of pleasure that won't be forgotten in this lifetime! JWHpurist
4/24/09
 
JDoughMO says:
I like my ACEs like I like my ladies....cheap and easy. BA-ZING. I originally thought this post was about guys making a hole-in-one and not buying drinks at the 19th hole. For example, in March I watched a guy drain an ACE on the $10k money hole at St. Patty's Day Scramble and didn't by drinks for a single soul. That is one Cheap ACE.
4/24/09
 
dtomsfan says:
Aces are always worthy of excitement/joy/congratulatory spirits, whether it is from 100 yards or 180. Sure, it maybe harder from 180, but no matter what length, some luck is involved. Don't be hater and try to diminish the short ace.
4/24/09
 
M.Nugent says:
I think it depends, if the hole is respectable length (over 100 at least) and could be on a regular course then its fine but a 65 yard par 3 hole in 1 is something to be proud of, but its not on the same level as a normal Ace. Im sure tour players would say an ace in a nontournament round is not that important.
4/24/09
 
BK88 says:
Hell, why don't we count the aces on putt-putt courses then...
If it ain't a real golf course, then it ain't the same.
4/24/09
 
SingleDigits says:
On Wed of the Masters tournament they call hole in ones Aces at the Par 3 course.
4/24/09
 
golfgirl says:
I guess it depends on one's own capacity for pleasure/joy/excitement.

If you're one of those dour, curmudgeonly types and the course is anything less than a U.S. Open course in Open Conditions, it probably won't mean much to you. Which is kind of pathetic.

Oh and BK88, some people do count the aces on putt-putt courses. Or so I've heard.
4/24/09
 
Shankapotamus says:
I think part of the excitement about getting a hole in one is that you typically only get four shots at it per round. That's why it is celebrated so much more than eagles. If you get 18 shots at it, I don't think it is quite as sweet. However, I wouldn't diminish or downplay someone else's accomplishment if they were celebrating an ace on par 3 course.
4/24/09
 
kidputter says:
I've gotten 6 ACES, all on regulation courses with lengths 156-187 yds. They are ALL luck. Getting close is the skill part. Odds of a 10 handicapper getting an ACE are 12,000 to 1. Doesn't matter how many times per round you have a shot at it. I do think the length of hole should have something to do with it. Minimum 150 yards is what the hole-in-one contests require.
4/25/09
 
golfdude528 says:
A hole in one is a hole in one. I don't care what size course it is one. I have played par 3's as short as 70 yds and as long as 230 yds. If it goes in off your tee shot, it deserves respect.
4/25/09
 
falcon50driver says:
My first was 150 yards,it was late in the day and the guy I was playing with told me it didn't count unless it was on a full card so we hurried up and played the last 7 holes in record time, running from tee box to ball so as to get the card finished. I wound up getting bogie on each. The second one was 175 yards in a tournament and won a 2007 Mustang GT . They gave me the closest to the hole prize also, a Ping G2 Putter.
4/25/09
 
ToddRobb says:
merlin, That's what I'm talkin bout... both of those are the opposite of "Cheap Aces"
4/25/09
 
Mookie says:
I'm thinking that to the guy who hits it, an ace is an ace is an ace. I'm looking forward to my first. I rarely play par 3 or exec courses, but I'll get one sooner or later. Got to. Can't putt.
4/25/09
 
ronphoto says:
150 yards for one person, 120 for another. Would you say that an Ace at Pebble Beach's 7th hole (106 yards) isn't legitimate?
4/26/09
 
ronphoto says:
Or the 8th at Troon (126 yards)?
4/26/09
 
ToddRobb says:
For me the yardage doesn't matter, if it's on a regulation course on regular tees and greens, no temps, it's legit. I haven't played a pitch and putt course in twenty years, there aren't any in this area.
4/26/09
 
birdieXris says:
an ace is an ace. What's the difference? so it's a par 3 course. Yea it's as legit as any other ace. That's like saying an ace made on a shorter hole at augusta is better than a longer hole at Crossgates or somewhere. Just because it's a different course with a bigger name and different architect doesn't make it better. The hole is still regulation size and you're still using regulation equipment. It counts in my book.
4/26/09
 
Mann96J says:
The difference between an ace on a par 3 course and an ace on a regular 18 hole course is obviously the chance you have on getting one. You have 18 chances from distances of 85 yards to 200 yards to sink it. Yet, at a 18 hole course you just have an avergae of 4 chances to sink it from usually 130-180 yards. A hole in one is still a hole in one. But, It is more appreciated when you playing golf regularly by trying to get s close to the pin as possible for birdie. Instead of going to a course and just pin seeking to buy your foursome a round of beers. It still counts in my book but not as much.
4/26/09
 
cjgiant says:
Funny thing about golf, that 175 yard shot counts same as that 2-foot putt. The importance of being the first shot on a hole is more the function of having a scorecard, not necessarily the actual difficulty of the shot. So an ace is an ace. No one keeps a "hole-in-one percentage" (or does oob do this?), especially not as a way to determine one's skill. But hopefully any hole in one is a fun story to tell anyone who asks, regardless of what that story is.
4/26/09
 
Paul Novak says:
Personally I feel that a hole in one is a hole in one. I agree with all the arguments that people have made, but I will tell you from experience, I make about as many 75 yard shots as I do 175 yard shots LOL and thatGÇÖs not very many. I agree that hitting a hole in one on a par three course is easier because of the amount of attempts but a hole in one is a hole in one. I would not be bragging up a hole in one on a par three, but that is me personally. I donGÇÖt think that you can take anything away from someone that does because it's still an amazing shot.
4/26/09
 
falcon50driver says:
There is definitely something special about hitting a tee shot into the hole, no matter where it is. I holed out a 150 yard shot on a par 4 and also a 190 yard shot on another for eagles and nobody even mentioned it at the bar after the round.
4/26/09
 
laseranimal says:
you still have to hit it in the hole
4/26/09
 
Virtuaframax says:
ahole in one is a hole in one in my opinion... sure a 100 yds is a little different from 180-200yds, but i think that the accuracy of the shot including all the variables is what matters anyway. i never got one in my 1 yr of golf, but i got a eagle 2 on a par 4 from 180 yds out... but it wasnt talked too much by the other guys i was playing with...
4/27/09
 
owenhyne says:
What about aces on a minigolf course? Still special? I remember my first ace, a 6 yard monster with a stream on the left and a garden gnome guarding the front right of the cup. I tell you it was a million-to-one shot! Then a 9 year old girl got one right after me. The kid behind the counter just gave me a blank look when I tried claimed my prize.
4/27/09
 
toycannon14 says:
I've played for about 10 years and never had one. I used to play only at an executive course and had a lot of chances on the short 2nd hole. it was about 120 yards so depending on the breeze, id hit an 8 or 9 iron. i was 8. Ive lipped out, hit the pin, left it hanging and landed on the pin but no ace
4/27/09
 
cjgiant says:
Maybe a hole in one is like a fast-break emphatic dunk or a one-run shot out of the stadium. Both please the crowd a lot, but a three pointer with the shot clock running down or a 2-run double are probably more important. An eagle from 160 could be more impressive than a hole-in-one, because you might not have a flat lie and you don't get to tee the ball up, unless you play some liberal winter rules.

But it's not a 1 on the scorecard, which does mean something. But those who have holed out from distance still remember their shots enough to mention them here :).
4/27/09
 
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