Can Some People Just Not Golf?
By Kickntrue on 6/4/09
Charles Barkley is done filming with Hank Haney, and sad to say, his game isn't that much better. Is it possible that some people just can't play golf, no matter what they do?

Charles had at least 150 hours of one-on-one intense training and teaching from one of the best golf instructors in the world, and his swing is still bad when he gets on the course. It's seems tough to argue that Charles would be in the category of "just can't golf" considering he used to be very good at it, but it does appear to be a bit of a lost cause.
By the time the series was finished filming, the hitch was still making appearances. So was the experiment a success?

"When you look at the expectations, I think Charles said it best when he said he played better than in years past, and I'm 100 percent confident in that," said Haney. "Is that what he would hope for or what I would hope for? Maybe not, but it is progress."
Charles Barkely seems to get more "passes" in life than anybody this side of John Daly. He's been in trouble with his gambling, drinking, prostitute soliciting and his on-air behavior both as a player and analyst for the NBA. At the same time, I can't stop pulling for him a little.

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mjaber says:
To answer the intial question: Yes, some people just can't golf. My sister is one of them. Is Charles Barkley one? I doubt it. As has been very well documented, he USED TO BE very good. I think he can be again. I think that it's more of a mental block than Hank of he originally thought. If you watch the show, and see him on the range, the hitch is much less prevalent than when he's on the course.
6/4/09
 
TWUES17 says:
"Do I have a gambling problem? I do have a gambling problem, but it's not really a problem because I can afford to gamble."
6/4/09
 
kidputter says:
All athletes get a FREE PASS. Remember Kobe and the girl in the hotel? A-Rod? Michael Irvin? T.O.? Fuzzy Zoeller? Every one of these athletes is guilty of something inexcusable and yet they are still on people's good side. It just goes to show that if you perform, you get cut some slack.
6/4/09
 
jbird899 says:
Im sick of Barkley. It was fun to watch the show but he does get a little tiresome.
6/4/09
 
falcon50driver says:
Gambling is only a problem if you're losing
6/4/09
 
Swingem says:
Fugedaboutit! I've been watching the Haney Project and pulling for Charles, but if he can't ditch the "Barkley Hitch" after this, its been a waste.
6/5/09
 
JWHpurist says:
It is my opinion that Barkley could erase the acquired negative subconcious thoughts that intrude, over a period of time, and "Cause Him To Chase the ball" in his golf swing. A move similar to going after a loose ball in Basketball!! Kareem cured his problem with free throws with proper thinking and work. Barkley could restore his game with more work and patience!! I would even be willing to show him how it's done if he is interested. Golf is easier than "Target Shooting" and I have recorded & taught others to shoot perfect scores (AKA Possibles) with sufficient work and mental development. "All things are possible if a person develops the proper mental attitude"!! JWHpurist
6/5/09
 
ToddRobb says:
JWHpurist, you sure are doin a lot of talking for someone that has only put in one score 4 months ago,,,WTF???
6/5/09
 
falcon50driver says:
ToddRobb, Have you noticed the similarity in writing style of three certain individuals?
6/5/09
 
jonkarn says:
I agree, it seems to be more mental than Haney thinks. If he can make a perfect swing one minute, then the next with pressure on him he hitches, its mental. Just like when pitchers all of a sudden can't throw a strike, or Chuck Knoblauch can no longer throw to first from second, or Mackey Sasser can no longer toss the ball back to the pitcher after catching a pitch without tapping his glove like 10 times. Its a mental hiccup, just like Charles' "pause" and inability to pull the trigger on the golf course. I am no golf expert, but you can see its the psychological causing the physical.
6/5/09
 
cjgiant says:
The range is much larger than any fairway, and there is no penalty for your misses. As soon as it "matters" things can change (not to mention non-perfect lies and other things). I notice that when I have difficulty on the course, in most cases I try too hard and tighten up rather than remaining loose as I was on range. I'd guess it's a similar but more intense thing for Charles.

And yes, there are people who can't play golf. I'd argue most of those fall into the category of just flat out being uncoordinated. You can see athletic people (i.e. athletes) look silly on a course, but just because they aren't natural golfers doesn't mean they can't become so (I am thinking of some football players I've seen on the course who use swing strongly at the ball instead of smoothly through it).

Then there's the old sexist joke: yes, they're called women.
6/5/09
 
JWHpurist says:
TR: You are a good gentleman and I agree with your position on a number of topics! I did not understand tha a player had post 100 scores on this web site in order to express their opinion. I could go back and post the scores from the last 50 years of playing this game if I still had them. I play this game for pleasure, relaxation, and my personal improvement. I play when the occasion arrises and have nothing to prove to others. Pardon me if I offended your sensibilities. "Tell me what you think about them apples"! JWHpurist
6/6/09
 
ToddRobb says:
JWHpurist, It's not a matter of posting 100 scores, you come on here talking like you're some kind of golf guru, the first thing most people do is look to see what level that YOU play at to see whether or not you MIGHT know what you're talking about. In my opinion, when I read a post by someone that has just started the game it gives the perspective from someone at that level, same follows from someone that is a scratch golfer. For you to only put in one score wreaks of spammer with an agenda, especially with all of the posting you're doing. It sounds like you're one of "those guys" that doesn't keep score, if that's the case, how do you gauge your "personal improvement"? BTW, you don't have to sign your name at the end of your post, we all know it's you. Gotta go play 36, check my scores later.
6/6/09
 
JWHpurist says:
To TR: I began to learn the Game in 1957. It took me 20 years, several hundred rounds, numerous lessons and a great deal of practice to develop the skill level (mental & Physical) that allowed me to reduce my recorded scores from 100+ to mid 80's and sometimes into high 70's. I observe the rules of Golf, carry the Book in my bag, play "Ball Down", prefer to play Tour Blades & Drivers 1/2 the size of the current max.. I will play a good deal more after I solve some major family problems. Check with Terry Koller and see what his opinion is of me relative to the elimination of negative feedback. I am no Ghru, have learned a lot in my life but there is always much more to learn. It would be a pleasure to play a round of golf with you except you are 3,000 mi. NE of me. Hope you had a good 36. JWHpurist
6/8/09
 
Hacker Al says:
shut up, FAGpurist
6/10/09
 
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