Could he really quit?
Would Tiger Really Quit?
By Kickntrue on 12/11/09
Reports are surfacing that Elin has demanded Tiger quit golf until he regains her trust if he wants to save the marriage. I've tried my best to stay out of some of the more "tabloid" type stuff with this whole mess, but I thought this would be an interesting discussion that can stay above the rest of the crap going on.
The Sun reported Woods' wife, Elin Nordegren, has drawn up a list of requirements for Woods to meet if he wants to remain married. "Last night it was understood Elin had refused to let Woods tour until he regained her trust - or until daughter Sam, 2, and 10-month-old son Charlie were old enough to tag along with them," The Sun reported.
I can certainly understand her sentiment. As a husband and a father I think Tiger has to honor this request. As someone who has watched Tiger his whole career, I don't know how he can.

Everything (we think) we know about Tiger is focused around his performance on the course and his quest to break Jack Nicklaus' majors record. Taking off a year or two in the prime of his career isn't exactly going to help reach those goals. Tiger IS a golfer. That's how the world knows him. If these reports are true, I guess we're going to see if Tiger is MORE of a husband. In "real-life" being a good husband seems like it should be the more important thing, but we're talking about someone who has made $1B from a game, and it's not exactly like pro athletes are celebrities are known for their lasting marriages.

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Banker85 says:
wow, if this is true Tiger should just end it. He might lose endoresments if he isnt playing and obviously not winning. On the other end he might lose endorsements for ending his marriage. Cant believe i would ever say this but IT SUCKS TO BE TIGER WOODS. i think in the long run he will be more disappointed for not getting to 19 majors than staying in an already damaged (maybe irepairable) marriage.
12/11/09
 
bducharm says:
Ig he had 19 majors, no doubt he would quit. I think he wants Jack's record BADLY! We'll see - I originally thought he might take the next year off but he DEFINITELY will be back!!!
12/11/09
 
Backquak says:
i don't think he will quit, there is wiggle room in that statement, "until daughter Sam, 2, and 10-month-old son Charlie were old enough to tag along with them" makes me think he can still hit the major tourneys and work on his marriage. He may just cut back more on the number of events he enters so the family can tag along.
So, No, I don't think he will quit.
12/11/09
 
Ben Crane says:
I'm against divorce, but think it would be best for him to leave if her demands are true. What he did is horrible, but he won't be able to make amends by giving in to her every demand. It will just delay the inevitable. The trust is gone in that relationship. You have nothing without trust.
12/11/09
 
SweetJazz says:
The only way this could work is if he cuts down on the number of tounaments he enters for 2010 and on. Financing for his children and wife to attend events is not an issue. Having the whole family at the event is key. Tiger just needs to end his club hopping and Vegas trips. Nothing that happens in Vegas stays in Vegas when your Tiger Woods.
12/11/09
 
Banker85 says:
@Ben Crane: second that. I guarantee he will play the all majors in 2010.
12/11/09
 
Shankapotamus says:
What does golf have to do with his fidelity? Allegedly, he was doing a waitress up the street from his house so I don't see how staying at home is going to solve the problem. If anything, I think he should focus more on golf and his family in order to get through this. Although I would like to think I could have with a cart girl here or there, I have never got close to cheating on my girlfriend while playing or practicing golf.
12/11/09
 
chrisfb1 says:
If tiger woods dont play golf, I dont think i would know him. if tiger woods stop playing golf, i think it will be a shame for him as a golfer. it sucks to give up things in life, but if i play golf all my life and i need to give up golf for a while because of a wife(which i had cheated on and it will not be the same again)i would rather give up on the wife then something that i have been pursuing all my life. family if important, but he has done things to the point that there is no return. give up golf is betraying the last thing he has in his life that still mean something to him.
12/11/09
 
JDoughMO says:
@Shankapotamus - I recall several occasions where you explicitly stated you would voluntarily participate in a variety of "transgressions" and other assorted acts of an unethical manner to have back things such as an uphill 3 footer for birdie, a 100 yard wedge to a center cut pin, pull hooked drive on an 80 yard wide fairway and so on. I even recall a couple requests for things to be done to you for flubbing chips and shanking approach shots... and I quote... "blank me in the blank with non grip end of my driver." Shameful.
12/11/09
 
Shankapotamus says:
I just heard on the cbs evening news Tiger is taking an indefinite break so I went to his site and sure enough he has posted a new statement...

web.tigerwoods.com/news/article/200912117801012/
12/11/09
 
JDoughMO says:
Wow. Probably a good shift of focus on his part. By indefinite should we assume until the Masters? If he sits on the sidelines for the Masters we'll know just how much his family means to him and how much he wants to fix this.
12/11/09
 
cheymike says:
I hope Tiger EARNS the trust of his family and friends again. IF he does, and comes back to golf a changed man, then I hope he continues to kick butt as much as he has in the past. If he doesn't earn it/change.. then I hope he never sets foot on a golf course again.
12/11/09
 
Swingem says:
Good-on-ya Tiger! If he cleans himself up, however long that takes, then he'll be marketable again. If he were to ditch the wife and family for golf just to chase a record, then the record would be stained if he made it. Handle your business TW, right now its not golf.

By the way, Stevie's been awfully quiet through this whole thing.

@JDoughMO/Shankapotamus; WTF?, thats a bad visual!
12/11/09
 
Shankapotamus says:
I'm not sure what this means (a month? a year?).

@JDoughMO- I agree that we won't know how serious this is until April. I'm sure he will lay low for the next few months and hope the media frezny blows over. He has to get in front of the media before the Masters (or whenever he returns). His first time behind a microphone can't be a post round press conference.
12/11/09
 
Shankapotamus says:
@Swingem- No transgressions between JDoughMo and I. However, we have played some cold, lonely rounds together.
12/11/09
 
Swingem says:
@Shankapotomus; No disrespect intended. Just hope its an old small-headed persimmon driver, not one of the new 460's. :-)
12/11/09
 
Shankapotamus says:
@Swingem- Hilarious! JDoughMO's story would be better if it invovled a Jack "The Hammer" Hamm driver but there were no actual insertions of any kind.
12/11/09
 
Banker85 says:
I support Tiger 100%
12/11/09
 
Matt F says:
@Swingem - You'd be very quiet too, if your living depended on how well you kept your mouth closed.

Matt
12/12/09
 
TomPong says:
Tiger should take his time,....But the problems he is in now, are his private problems, and they have nothing to do with sports! He never cheated druing play!
12/12/09
 
Banker85 says:
Kobe was accused of Rape and people still love him. Time heals all wounds Tiger, and so does 4 million dollar rings *hint *hint
12/12/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Most marriages and family planning is "ill conceived." If I just take a quick mental survey of my frends and relatives.... about 1/4 marriages are founded on solid footing, with room for error (money/ health/ family problems). The rest not only have little or no room for error, but, as I see it, require growth and development from the partners and or parents.
Now given the celebrity status of one or more partners, and loads of money, there are few incentives for fidelity, and even fewer for any kind of lasting commitment to the work needed to keep even good marriages/ parenting funtional.
The life of pro atheletes are relevant, because those careers require specialized sacrifices and schedules. To make his personal life off limits is impossible these days. Just ask the guys who didn't get their tour card who are keeping their families together about their lives. Very relevant!!!
12/12/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Love may fail, but courtesy prevails (Vonnegut). You can be decent even if your life falls apart - just ask victims of cancer, catastrophes, violence. Selfish, childlike behavior looks just like what it is, and gets the same results. Tiger has never acted mature or down to earth in any interview I've ever seen/ heard. I can forgive him for not being down to earth, because his talent/ fame are celestial. The immaturity is pretty boring, however. Always acts like the kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, but was too good have consequences. He can do whatever he wants, but I doubt this wise ass will ever be a wise man.
12/12/09
 
kidputter says:
Indefinite leave of absence, my BUTT! His handlers think this is the only way he can get back in the good graces of his fans.
Elin was a frigging NANNY before Tiger put her in the lap of luxury. She had a good run. It's over. Move on. Take your cut and let him get back on the course.
12/12/09
 
ToddRobb says:
This whole thing is like an onion, the more you peel the more it stinks. It's funny how the first woman we heard about actually denied having sex with him. I have a problem with Tiger not stepping up and admitting that he has a sex addiction problem. Him staying off the golf course to me isn't the answer, now what, he stays home and does what all day?? Until he gets help for his problem his marriage will be one waitress away from ending. I'm with John Daly when he said staying together for the kids isn't a good idea, it's been rumored that Elin wasn't "fulfilling" his sexual needs, that being the case, maybe they should go there separate ways. To me, life is to short to share with someone you're not totally committed to.
12/13/09
 
edditude says:
Elin made it clear he is going to have to satisfy his devotion to the mother of his children before he steps back on the course to continue his carreer. Jesper Parnivik brought these 2 together thinking Tiger was an honorable man.
Obviously he loves this woman and his children to take the time off and if he comes back to early he may feel like a fallier.
12/13/09
 
kidputter says:
He's not a sex addict. He's a MAN. We ALL want sex and not necessarily from the same woman. The thing with Tiger is, he has the capability to fulfill his desires. Send the broad packing and play golf, screw the cart girl and to HELL with the media.
12/13/09
 
ToddRobb says:
Tiger actually is the definition of a sex addict, someone with sex desires that have to be act upon. He has not mentioned loving any of these other women, it's about sex plain and simple. Most men would like to have sex with the hot waitress, but most aren't pursuing her to make it happen. My point is if he tries to "work on his marriage" what's the point if he doesn't acknowledge the elephant in the room, which is what caused the problem to begin with. His marriage wasn't enough for him to not do it before, what's going to keep him from doing it now? One or two mistresses are one thing, 12 or 15 in a five year period is a "problem". If he doesn't want to admit it he might as well send her packing and play golf.
12/13/09
 
Banker85 says:
The waitress he was allegedly with is nasty! Mindy Lawton WTF was he drunk or something? Say it ain't so Tiger!? He needs to come forward and tell all to get these money hungry tramps who are lying to shut up and prevent any other dumb hos from coming forward. I like the Oprah idea
12/13/09
 
goinggoinggone says:
Tiger might be seriously mentally ill, perhaps even bi-polar as common symptoms include sex addiction and insomnia. My advice to him would be that he should put everything else in his life on hold, including his relationship with Elin and get a mental evaluation, as well as blood work to ensure he hasn't contracted an STD. When he is observed to be healthy both mentally and physically, he can start the marriage healing process by attending couples counseling. Elin should drop him if he doesn't immediately dedicate himself to working on rebuilding her trust with the same energy and focus he has proven to display in his efforts in becoming the world's number one golfer. I wish him the best, but my opinion of him has changed. Instead of regarding him as an inspiration, I'm embarrassed for him and those close to him. Get well soon.
12/13/09
 
kidputter says:
WTF are you guys talking about? A month ago none of this crap was even being hinted at. Now that he bangs a few women and crashes a truck, all of a sudden he has mental problems? GET REAL! His only mental problem is giving up his livelihood for a woman. More than 50% of all celebrity marriages FAIL. It's the nature of the beast.
12/14/09
 
Kickntrue says:
I don't know if I should be jumping in on this... but what the hay...

I don't think 12 women in 5 years is really "sex addict" level. It's actually a pretty decent spread between any one of them. If he were single- that would be nothing. Let's not jump to "sex addict" (if that even exists). Sounds more like a person whose judgment was cloudy by power.

Wilt Chamberlain.... now there is someone we can start using the word "Addict" for- though honestly if that is the case... show me a guy with the chance to bed 10k women, and I'll show you one happy "sex addict."
12/14/09
 
tennesseeboy says:
I am amazed at home much press this is getting. All this talk about this bringing down Tiger. Did infidelity bring down Kobi Bryant, Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Bill Clinton? I guess it did bring down Steve McNair but he had already retired. Personally, I've never had a lot of respect for Tiger Woods the person. This makes me respect him even less. I do have a lot of respect for Tiger Woods the golfer and I will miss watching him during his "indefinite" (meaning a few months) leave. Some surveys say 60% percent of men cheat at least once. So what percentage of the men on the PGA tour do you think have cheated on their wives?

Why is this getting so much press?
12/14/09
 
mschad says:
"Why is this getting so much press??" Now I think it just boils down to $$$. Advertisers are paying more $$ for spots/ads associated around this story. Soon as other stories attract more advertisers, this story will die!
12/14/09
 
Kickntrue says:
@mschad- you have suggestions for a "bigger story" with more ad revenue?
12/14/09
 
mschad says:
@Kickntrue: Not yet, but one will come along.
12/14/09
 
mmontanaro says:
The one thing people have to realize is that golf needs Tiger more than Tiger needs golf. He has more money than any family can spend in a lifetime, even if all the endorsements dried up tomorrow. He could probably live his comfortable lifestyle for the rest of his life on the interest alone, even in a recession. If Elin were smart, she'd take charge of rebuilding their image as a family, tag along with him to all the tournaments (yes, the kids are old enough), and be seen together as a happy, albeit cautious, wife. The endorsements would come flooding in at that point since Tiger will be the biggest media draw there is for at least 6 months after his return... and some sponsor will get the benefit of all that exposure. I wish I could invest in TW stock right now, buy low, sell high...
12/14/09
 
onedollarwed says:
I wouldn't call adultery a "crime" necessarily, and these days the term "adultery" is only as defined by the partners involved. Monogamy is fine for many people, though not most. Monogamous relationships or marriages can be the most fullfilling if able to be accomplished. However, like crime, sex and love are prone to failure - due to circumstances or illness. Kleptomania is the illness which makes some people uncontrollable thieves. I knew some who became this way after brain surgery - never before. Serious head injuries show us this time and time again - a new behavior (religious conversion, musical talent, personality changes, etc.). However, people are at the mercy of circumstances much more frequently.
12/14/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Pretty much everyone will kill, steal, play golf, or screw given the right mix of conditions. When the opportunity is there, and the chance of being caught is low, most peopl jump. How many times have YOU played golf even when it wasn't totally appropriate? Did you ever sneak it? A work convention in a distant city?
Basically, crime can be charted by two factors: Power and Oversight. The more power a person has and the less the oversight, Bingo! There's the magic combination. That's why most crime is either white collar, or clandestine. It's sad that white collar crime - which effect far more people, carries such light sentencing. Of course those are the people making the laws, and enforcing it.
Now with celebs, or sports stars, their only "job" is to live up to their contracts, support teams, teaamates, stay healthy, fit, and yes.... to honor those who give them millions to give "image content" to their product.
12/14/09
 
onedollarwed says:
So it is Tiger's job to not tarnish his image. There's plenty of that in the small and large print of his contracts. Does he have any duty to the PGA (his "team"). Sure. That's why he looks so bad. His arrogance and irresponsibility is huge. Some athletes are used for their bad-boy image. Some celebs crave and create bad press. That's their image. What was Tiger's image. Right, get it?
12/14/09
 
onedollarwed says:
So thus, to rebuild his job, he needs to rebuild his image. Otherwise I doubt he'll ever be the same golfer again? He'll win many more for sure, but never the same golfer. Could anyone really stomach the jokey, smiley, and smug remarks?
Does golf need Tiger?
Does baseball need the Yankees?
Does Cricket need Ashton Pemgrove?
12/14/09
 
mmontanaro says:
If you cheat on your spouse, will you get fired from your job?
12/15/09
 
onedollarwed says:
Depends if it's with my boss.
But seriously, there are particular transgressions that most people would not think serious at all that would cost me my job. It's because I have a particular public image which is necessary for my job.
When I was a rock and roller it would've helped my job and my image.
12/17/09
 
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