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Nicklaus & Sorenstam Want Olympic Design
By Kickntrue on 6/11/10
Jack Nicklaus and Annika Sorenstam have asked the International Golf Federation to consider them for a co-designed course for the 2016 Olympics in Brazil.
Jack Nicklaus and Annika Sorenstam, who served as “global ambassadors” during golf’s successful bid to be part of the Olympics, want to build the course in Brazil where the Olympics will be held in 2016.

Nicklaus said he and Sorenstam have written a letter to the International Golf Federation requesting they be considered as architects of the first Olympic golf course since 1904.

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Nicklaus said one potential site already has been identified. If selected, he said he and Sorenstam would collaborate on the strategy of each hole— Nicklaus from championship tees for the men, Sorenstam with women in mind.

“I’ll be surprised if they don’t select us,” Nicklaus said. “But I’m sure other people are interested.”
I've said before (and because I have a forum) I'll say it again, I'm 100% against golf in the Olympics, at least in it's current format. Since that ship has long sailed I supposed I don't really care either way on this. Nicklaus and Sorenstam make as much sense as anybody. I know they're saying they'll consider this- but I do hope they come up with a way to design a course that can be used by many long after the Olympics have left- and not just by rich tourists and locals. "Real" people need access to golf unless the whole "global reach and expansion of the sport" line they were pitching when trying to get golf in the Olympics was BS. Maybe they can pull that off- but I don't know many Nicklaus designed munis you can play for $35.

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Kurt the Knife says:
Just curious. Why are u 100% against golf in the olympics?
6/11/10
 
eventHorizon says:
golf in the Olympics is great. However, it should be 100% amateurs only. Get the pros out of the Olympics already.
6/11/10
 
Banker85 says:
Ya, why dont you like it? It should grow the game worldwide. What is the current format?
6/11/10
 
Kickntrue says:
@all- I'm against it being a stroke play tournament with four rounds and a winner- just like every other golf event that exists. plus- by including all countries it's going to have a super weak field (minus USA, England, South Africa, Australia). I'm for a team event- like the Ryder Cup on PED's. THAT would be fun to watch.
6/11/10
 
Kurt the Knife says:
Of course it should be an amateur competition, right? I thought the olympics were restricted to amateur participants.
Are they really thinking tour pros should compete? Now that IS bogus.
6/11/10
 
Kurt the Knife says:
what is "PED's"?

I'll go lookup ryder cup format for misself.
6/11/10
 
sepfeiff says:
@kickntrue - Agree. With the pros in the field I think it would be like watching another major where a handful of countries mop up. Even if it were amateurs it could be the same countries.

Maybe its a double edged sword... by having countries getting their asses kicked in the olympics... they may invest in bringing golf to their country?
6/11/10
 
eventHorizon says:
I guess I didn't realize they are playing it as straight up stroke play. Essentially just another PGA event, bummer. Would definitely like to see a team event. Possibly even set up a bracket of sorts or something.
6/11/10
 
Torleif Sorenson says:
Exactly. Just like the Olympic hockey tournaments -- somebody might score an upset victory, which is why it needs to be match-play, not medal play.

Nothing against Nicklaus and Sorenstam, who have drawn many to the game, but I would love to see what a "traditionist" architect like Tom Doak, Gil Hanse, or the Ben Crenshaw & Bill Coore team. Kyle Phillips might be an outstanding choice given that he already has 17 *overseas* courses to his credit as the principal designer and another 19 when he worked for RTJ II.
6/11/10
 
Banker85 says:
ok i gotcha, ya i like the team event much better. And about the pros playing, what about basketball in the olympics? remember the dream team MJ, Magic, Bird...Pros make it funner to watch. thats my opinion. Plus no Tiger? that would be weak.
6/11/10
 
ElGalloGigante says:
You have to include the Pros nowadays, that's the norm. Good luck getting people to tune into the medal round with a bunch of no-namers in contention.
6/11/10
 
Torleif Sorenson says:
@ElGalloGigante: With all due respect, it's the so-called "no-namers" that often make for the best memories. For example, Lindsay Vonn at the Vancouver Olympics and two of the U.S. bobsled team members that were in the news just yesterday because they're about to be deployed overseas. Remember, it was a bunch of "no-name" college kids from Minnesota, Massachusetts, and a few other states that shocked the world on February 22, 1980 and gave the United States our best and most memorable moment in Olympic history.

If I want to watch the pros in an international competition, then I'll gladly tune into the Ryder Cup, Presidents Cup, and the Dunhill tournament in Scotland.
6/11/10
 
mjaber says:
My understanding is that everyone is on the same page in that the course MUST be a public course, and open for anyone and everyone to play.

That being said, I'm with most everyone in that the current format is BS. I think they need to AT LEAST make it an indvidual match play format. I'd like to see a format similar to gymnastics (the scoring, not the judging), where there is an individual and team competition.
6/11/10
 
mjaber says:
Oh, and I think there should also be a requirement that in the team competition at least 1 true amateur needs to be on the team.
6/11/10
 
mbills1015 says:
what's with everyone thinking the Olympics is an amatuer event?? Last I checked we send professionals in almost every sport. Are there situations where there truly are amatuers competing... yes. But for the most part we are sending people who make a good deal of money to compete in the sport they choose. With that being said having golf in the Olympics as a stroke play event just makes this an extension of the PGA and European Tour seasons and is unbelievably silly. Should be made into some kind of team event. If we are going to send amatuers to play I can't imagine it drawing the same crowd as Phil, Tiger, Westwood et all, thus defeating the whole point of adding it into the Olympics in the first place.
6/11/10
 
mjaber says:
@mbills... The Olympics USED to be an amateur event, and some of us want it back that way. It started to become a professional exhibition with the "Dream Team", specifically because other countries were finding loopholes in the rules, and allowing professional athletes on their Olympic teams. I don't watch much of the Olympics anymore, mostly because the sports I would normally watch, I can see the guys play everyday, or every couple of days already. The attraction to me was the sport and the competition... the athletes playing for the competition, the gold medal, and national pride. Once pros started competing, I didn't see that anymore.
6/11/10
 
ElGalloGigante says:
@Torleif Sorenson - Lindsey Vonn was and is a professional. Most bobsled members are also professionals; a high school friend is one. The days of an true amateur squad taking home the golf is gone. The Olympics are about nations' best competing against one another, and the best is what the pubic wants to see.
6/11/10
 
ElGalloGigante says:
Correction: That's, "...taking home the GOLD..." not "the golf." I'm pretty excited about squeezing in 18 this afternoon.
6/11/10
 
falcon50driver says:
When you typed GOLF instead of GOLD. That is what is known as a Freudian slip, where what is TRULY on your mind comes out unintentionally. A similar thing happened to me, this morning, when what I intended to say was, "Please pass the Cheerios" , and what slipped out was, " You miserable bitch, you've ruined my life"
6/12/10
 
ipv6freely says:
I agree that the olympics should be amateur only if it wasnt for one thing - I firmly believe that the people competing in the olympics should be the absolute best athletes on the planet, and their amateur/pro status should be irrelevant.
6/13/10
 
ipv6freely says:
BTW - $35 for a round of golf? Jeebus... maybe someday I could afford that...
6/13/10
 
ElGalloGigante says:
@ Merlin2Driver - Hahaha! Nice.
6/14/10
 
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