After-market Shafts- UST Mamiya
By Kickntrue on 6/15/10
Most of us buy a golf club and stare longingly at the head. Companies like UST Mamiya are trying to expand your lust to the shaft (TWSS!).
Ben Hogan is credited with saying that the shaft is the "engine of the golf club," and while that mindset may be generally accepted by pros and equipment junkies it is important that it is slowly starting to influence amateur golfers. While the metaphor is technically inaccurate (the golfer is the engine, the shaft is more like the transmission) the general meaning is true. Anyone who has ever picked a golf club off the rack, set it down to the ground to address and waggled it a few times should understand this concept, at least it it's simplest form. Some shafts feel like a noodle, some like a steel rod. It doesn't take advanced level physics knowledge at least grasp the concept that it influences your swing, shot and ball flight.
Admittedly, I don't have advanced knowledge of shafts. Here are a couple Wedge Guy articles to check out for more technical reasoning: HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE to start. I'd recommend checking a couple of those out and sending Terry questions you may have.
Of course- even if we read up on kick point, tip, butt, weight, and torque we're still left with an awkward situation of actually being able to try out the different shafts. After market shafts are quite expensive and it's a stretch to think someone will spend $500 for a shaft site unseen, even if pros are using it. This is why I believe DEMO DAYS are your best friend! You need to be able to try out the exact same club with the only difference being the shaft. It's the only real way you'll be able to evaluate the feel and effectiveness of the shaft to your game.
Now- you'll notice I put UST Mamiya up in the title of this article. They are a major shaft manufacturer in Japan and now in the USA with a major shaft presence on most of the world's pro tours. There is a decent chance you have a UST Mamiya shaft in your bag and you may not know it. Anyway- they've been very awesome to me and oobgolf and have provided a couple shafts to check out and review. I've pushed them off way longer than I should mostly because of the demo day problem (I won't get to one) and my reluctance to write a puff piece about something I haven't tried out thoroughly (at least with something intelligent to say). I actually put the new ATTAS shaft ($350) into on of my old drivers and I really like it. It's their top line shaft for drivers and many on Tour are playing it most notably Stewart Cink. Because I removed my old shaft though, it's hard to compare it apples to apples. The other "problem" with reviewing a shaft is that unlike the heads of clubs, a good shaft for me can be vastly different for you. An ATTAS shaft is made "For the player seeking a mid to high launch, penetrating down range ball flight." Well- if you're looking for a lower launch angle, it doesn't matter if it costs $350 or not, it's probably not right for you.
Fortunately, shaft companies led by UST Mamiya are doing a good job at telling consumers what each shaft is made to do well- so it makes the process a little easier. For example the UST Mamiya Proforce AXIVCore Blue is made "for players seeking higher intial launch and additional spin for longer carry distance." That's a little clearer than trying to understand a Torque of 2.9 and a tip stiffness of 27.
So- long post summed up; UST Mamiya is a top shaft provider and shafts are very important. They've been very awesome to oobgolf and deserve credit for that but most importantly deserve your eyes and research when considering shaft options because their products are absolutely world class! To truly unlock the power of your shafts, you need to understand them better- if not technically, at least from a standpoint of feel, so visit demo days and make trying different shafts part of the equation when choosing a club. If you need help- ask, I'm sure a pro would love to help fit you. It's a punk move but worst case- get the specs down from the pro- and then go buy the club cheaper.
As always- feedback and personal experiences in the comments are welcome and appreciated. I'm sure a few of you have things to say on the subject!
UST Mamiya ATTAS
Proforce AXISCore Blue Shaft
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I have to say that the pricey shafts do perform better than the cheaper ones, and this past weekend I saw firsthand how much forgiveness is there. The guy I played in match play had a hitch in his swing that should have damaged his game but he always came out ok. and he consistantly out drove me all day long on one of my good driving days, he had a high dollar mitsubishi shaft in his driver that golfworks prices at 350. i would love to demo some of those nice shafts, and find the one that fits me.
I payed a total of $300 (installation and grips included) to get my driver, 3w, and 3hy all reshafted with matched UST proforce V2 shafts. best money I ever spent. the great thing about ust mamiya, which is worth mentioning, is that they have a very accessible chart on their site with all their shafts an the corresponding "driver swing speed". while it's not meantto be a perfect fit, it will show you how different shafts and weights perform relative to eachother. it was def a good starting point for me.
It's absolutely critical to get on a launch monitor and get YOUR stats! Once you have that, then you can be fit to the proper shaft. Hogan was correct - the shaft is the engine of the club. Yes, you have to look down and at least like the look of the club head but if the shaft is too stiff, not stiff enough, etc., the rest does not matter. It's about consistency!!!
Tee it High. says:
Putting matched UST Proforce V2 76x shafts in my Driver and 3 wood was worth its weight in gold. It really is amazing how much a difference they make, now I can attack the ball and know my dispersion area isn't going to kill me. Now if I mess up off the tee I only have myself to blame.
To sum it up, get fitted for a shaft and you will improve your game.
i spent 2 hours at a Golfsmith trying the same PING G10 with different lofts and shafts, and i surprisingly walked away with something completely different that what i thought i needed. the shaft makes all the difference. more so than the club head.
I've been thinking about the comment(s) made saying Hogan was wrong and the shaft is actually the transmission. I'll try to shy away from a physics/engineering discussion but I assume these comments are from the idea that the person swinging is believed to be the engine as he is supplying the power which gets transmitted through the shaft to the head, impacting the ball. The shaft actually bends and rotates, acting as a spring... consequently storing energy, like a spring. So the shaft is storing the energy and this energy is then released at impact... the amount of energy stored and how it is released is determined by the person's swing and the materials of the shaft.
This is the big reason why matching a shaft to your swing is drastically important. If your body can twist (torque) a shaft a certain amount but the materials in the shaft only allow a part of that twist you are not maximizing the amount of energy you supply the shaft. Sorry maybe this was common sense but the word transmission to me looses some of the great important characteristics of the shaft.
woah sorry, I just reread my posts. My point got lost in translation, it was a little late last night. I was attempting to say, the person swinging is the fuel to the engine (the shaft). Without the proper fuel the engine doesn't work properly. The shaft stores and releases the energy.
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