Phil Mickelson Provides Dramatic Finish in Memphis
By mustang6560 on 6/10/13
Phil Mickelson hit another memorable shot on the final hole of the FedEx St. Jude Classic yesterday.

Lefty was two strokes behind the co-leaders, playing partner Scott Stallings and eventual winner Harris English, as he entered the 18th at TPC Southwind. He needed to hit his approach shot close to put pressure on Scott, who missed the green wide right — and close he hit it.

As the ball was making its final approach to the hole, you can hear Phil say "Get in!". And his reaction to the fact it didn't was perfect Phil — pure disbelief! It's rare you see a golfer legitimately disappointed s/he didn't hole out from the fairway.

In the end, his near hole-out would have been a day late and a dollar short as Harris English matched Phil's birdie on the 18th with a bird on the 17th to win his first PGA Tour event. The PGA Tour sophomore earned a spot in The Masters next year, but he'll be watching the U.S. Open from afar.





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ToddRobb says:
That's what it's come to for Phil??? A story of how he made the finish "dramatic" by finishing tied for second?? I look at Phil and think of what should have been. His whole career he survived on talent alone without putting in the work, always looking for a quick fix by tinkering with his equipment, which is pretty pathetic.
6/10/13
 
snuffyword says:
I usually try to keep my mouth shut but every once in awhile, I feel like I need to sound off. Todd, I disagree with you. The finish could be deemed dramatic because almost anything can happen when it comes to golf. Maybe unlikely or improbable that Phil could win it but it's possible. As for putting in the work, I believe the pro's put in a lot of work, unlike you and me. Phil may not put in as much work as Vijay Singh or Ben hogan but I think he does work hard at his game. I do not believe that he is looking for a quick fix but by tinkering, I think he's trying to find what's comfortable and may give him confidence during that time span. It can't be that pathetic if you are always looking to improve, being it be equipment change or swing change or whatever change. I find it hard to criticize a Hall of Famer who is still competing at the highest level. Tied for second is better than not making the cut, don't you agree?
6/10/13
 
joe jones says:
I don't know how anyone can come to the conclusions ToddRobb came to. Phil may not work as hard as some on the tour but when you take into consideration his arthritic condition it is remarkable what he has accomplished. You are denigrating ,off hand one of the greatest players of all time. Sounds like some sour grapes or am alternative reason for your opinions.
6/10/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Four majors for someone with his talent should be unacceptable for him, if he had the drive it takes to be an upper level player amongst the guys on tour he would have easily been a real rival to Tiger, or when Tiger showed himself to be a scumbag and basically disappeared for a few years, Phil could have stepped up his game and became number one in the world. Make no mistake, anyone that is on tour is playing at the highest level, Phil is just one of those guys, where he could have been much more than that. Have you ever heard anyone praise Phil for how hard he works on his game?? No you haven't, because he doesn't work hard on his game, he changes drivers, he takes drivers out of the bag, he changes putters or putting strokes, at the end of the day those are changes that don't stick, that's why he winds up changing to something else. In the words of Bill Walton "work on your game"
6/10/13
 
ToddRobb says:
@joejones Did you say one of the greatest players of all time???? A simple way to gauge the greatest of all time would be majors correct?? Phil has four, three Masters and one PGA, he hasn't won The Open or the U.S Open and you consider him one of the greatest?? okay
6/10/13
 
snuffyword says:
Todd, again, I disagree. I will grant you that Phil hasn't won as amany majors as we all expect. But, I really think that when it comes to majors, not only should your game be clicking on all cylinders for that week, but also, there's lots of luck involved during the majors. I think just to win two majors is considered one of the greatest, in the context of professional golf of the modern day era. Take a look at Zach Johnson, Lucas Glover, Jeff Olgilvy, etc, etc. So if that's your criteria, I guess you wouldn't consider Nick Faldo as on of the greatest because he's never won a US Open Or PGA. Then, there's Colin Momtgomerie and Fred Couples who were inducted into the Hall of Fame this year. Sure, it's all subjective and everyone has his opinion but to some of us, Phil is one of the greatest...and I am not a big Phil fan. I would like to know what you think of Francis Ouimet. From a different analogy, what about Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly?
6/10/13
 
ToddRobb says:
snuffy, with all due respect, I'm not trying to get you to agree with me. I know I am one of the few guys on this site that thinks that Phil is an entitled slacker that doesn't feel the need to actually try to improve his game. I think in order to be considered one of the greatest of all time you DO have to win all four majors. If not, there are 8 others than Phil that have 4 majors, does that put them on the greatest list also? Raymond Floyd greatest of all time,, really?? p.s. don't get me started on the golf hall of fame :)
6/10/13
 
falcon50driver says:
Don't get Todd going, next thing he'll start slamming Phil's family too. I've already seen it.
6/10/13
 
ToddRobb says:
snuffy, I just read you post again, do you really believe that 2 majors gets you on the all time greatest list??? That means Lee Janzen who is currently on the web.com tour is one of the greatest of all time??
6/10/13
 
snuffyword says:
Todd, I really think Lee Janzen and Mark O'Meara should be considered for the Hall of Fame. That being said, I really think that they should be considered as one of the greatest during that span of time. Again, it's subjective and luck comes into play during that championship week. But, I really find it difficult to not include Phil as one of thr greatest. Play well!
6/10/13
 
ToddRobb says:
I refuse to put Phil on the same list as Jack, Gary Player, Hogan, Gene Sarazen and Tiger who have won all four majors. Hit em straight!
6/10/13
 
mmontisano says:
toddrobb, do you know Phil personally? I'm just wondering where you're getting this wonderful insight from....

and seriously, until Els won the Open last year, no other active player has 4 majors. so I think Phil is doing alright.
6/10/13
 
Werepuppie says:
If Majors are the standard,then 2 should be enough for the HOF.
6/10/13
 
ToddRobb says:
@badcaddy therein lies the problem, I do not know Phil personally and I DON'T WANT TO know Phil personally. That is exactly the reason everyone is responding to what I said about Phil, because you feel like you "know" Phil. I couldn't care less about Phil, Tiger, Adam, Jack, Arnie, Lebron, Jeter or any other athlete personally. I was just talking about golf. People tend to think they know athletes because they hear them speak after the round or they see them pitching products and make an assumption that "he's a great guy". I do personally know several pro athletes and I can assure you, not all of them are who they portray themselves to be to the media.
6/11/13
 
DougE says:
Any player who has stayed up in the front pack of top players for as long as Phil has, and has 4 major wins, HAS to be headed for the HOF. The list of those players is extremely small throughout the history of golf compared to the remaining thousands and thousands of players who made it to the big Tour.

Todd, you seem to have a strong opinion on this and you are entitled to your opinion. But I'm guessing there will be very few here---or on the voting committee for the HOF---who will share that opinion. Butch Harmon, for one, a guy who knows Phil's abilities and practice commitment very well, has already commented on how great a player he is within the modern history of the game. But what does he know, right?

MY opinion is that expressing your opinion about Phil in the way in which you have done above will not garner you much love or respect here, or other places where many golf fans gather in one place. Regarding your thoughts on Phil, you will always be in a very small minority. Just sayin'.
6/11/13
 
slimpks1850 says:
ToddRobb - keep at it. I love to watch Phil tie for second, fall on his rear, hit ball after ball in the water, take a six on Flowering Crabapple on Sunday, & so on...
6/11/13
 
srogers13 says:
I thought Phil was already in the Hall of Fame.
6/11/13
 
ToddRobb says:
DougF, The question was never if Phil will get to the hall of fame, I'm guessing you didn't read this whole thread, the statement that was made was he is "one of the greatest of all time", which I absolutely disagree with. The golf hall of fame is joke, Ernie Els is in right now, how that's even possible I find hard to understand. With their standards and judging from the sentiment on this site they will be building a wing in the hall of fame for Phil.
6/11/13
 
mmontisano says:
you're underestimating how hard it is to win a major championship. Phil has only about 12 guys that can say they're better than him on the all time majors list in well over 115 years of recorded history. where do you stack Hale Irwin? because he's ahead of him. he's ahead of even Bobby Locke and Jimmy Demaret. i would kill to have Phil's talent to hit a golf ball. you're argument is invalid.
6/11/13
 
DougE says:
Okay Todd, let's forget the HOF. Of all the golfers who have played this game throughout the 20th and 21st Century, Phil stands out as one of the best when you compare his record with all the thousands of others. I'm not saying he is among the 5 or 10 best who ever lived, but he is certainly worthy of high praise compared to most of the thousands who have played one of the top tours and never won a major, or two...or three for that matter. How far down the list of the thousands and thousands of pro tour-level golfers does it change from "one of the greatest of all time" to simply a damn good player? To me, if you have accomplished what Phil has, relative to all those other players, you are one of the greatest of all time. Top 1% is the best of the best to me. His stats alone support top 1%.

And, just for the record, I am a die hard Tiger fan.
6/11/13
 
ToddRobb says:
@badcaddy actually there are 18 other guys that have won more majors than Phil,take a minute to do a little research before stating numbers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men%27s_major_cham

@DougE I see your point, the point I was TRYING to make was that Phil could have been at the very least to Tiger what Arnie was to Jack. For him to come close as he was without reaching number one pretty much sums up his career, content to be where he is, content to win four majors, instead of being the best he could be. He never fulfilled his potential to match the talent that he had/has. He will always be a fan favorite because of the presentation that he puts out there, but he will always be a slacker in my book.
6/11/13
 
DougE says:
@ToddRobb, I don't think I'll ever get the "slacker" part of Phil you speak of, but maybe you know something about him that I don't. From what I have gleaned from various interviews with Butch Harmon on Golf Channel and/or the PGA Network on SiriusXM radio, I get the feeling that Butch thinks Phil is not a slacker either and he has also hinted that being #1 is one of Phil's goals to accomplish. I don't think he is content at all. However, I have no first hand experience to say one way or the other. I do know, looking simply at stats alone, he's ONE OF the all time best. Maybe he DID live up to his potential and that's just all there is, which ain't all that bad when you add it up.
6/11/13
 
Mandelbaum! says:
I can see ToddRobb's point – when your wife and mother are both diagnosed with cancer within six weeks of each other, what else should you be doing other than focusing on becoming the world's #1 golfer?
6/11/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Mandelbaum you forgot to throw in his own illness also.
6/11/13
 
mustang6560 says:
Phil has dealt with his share of personal issues off the course (wife's and mother's breast cancer, arthritis, etc), however, I expected him to win more than just four majors by now. That said, it's hard to say anyone with 40+ professional wins including the four majors has survived on talent alone.
6/11/13
 
mmontisano says:
not when you consider where Phil is on the total wins list. also, he's not done yet.
6/11/13
 
falcon50driver says:
I am proud to see so many folks who are supporters of Mickelson. I agree with all the positive comments. Even if I weren't particularly a fan of a certain golfer I wouldn't wish them bad luck as did slimpks1850. I try to root for my guy but not wish another bad luck.
6/11/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Falcon why not share your great story of when you ran into Phil and interrupted his dinner and he was great guy story, that's one of my favorites. Seems like we can't get enough of those feel good Phil stories :)
6/11/13
 
falcon50driver says:
Did Phil's lawyers talk to you about the slander you were perpetrating? I noticed you disappeared from oobgolf for several months. I know he was going to go after the jerks lying about him. Were you caught up in that?
6/11/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Which lies are you making reference to? The Phil cheating on his wife, the illegitimate child or the switching to Callaway because he needed the money because of bad investments in the waffle house lie? Wait,, you mean that stuff isn't true??? It's on the internet, it has to be true doesn't it? His lawyers never called me, had they called I would have told them their client is a slacker. Sounds like your taking it personal, touch a sensitive subject did I?? Sorry but your boy is a slacker. Just so you're aware, I don't play golf in the winter, where I'm from oddly enough it actually snows in the winter and the courses close. Had I known you missed me, maybe I would have visited the site during the off months, but it's good to know you noticed I wasn't here.
6/11/13
 
jrbizzle says:
ToddRobb, I think you're really letting this get way too personal. In today's day and age, if Phil had an illegitimate kid or had affairs, it would be all over the news. Fact is, people are jealous of Phil. They can't stand the fact that the guy is that good, but also like to gamble, travel, and hang out with his family and pound Five Guys cheeseburgers in his spare time.

Yes, for his natural talent, he probably didn't get everything out of it. But the guy has 4 majors, 3 NCAA championships, 4 time All-American, one of only 6 guys to win a PGA event as an amateur (age 20), and 49 total professional wins.

He's not top 5, he's not Hogan, Woods or Nicklaus for sure, but he's a sure fire top 20 golfer - and the 2nd best of this generation behind only Tiger Woods, who is either the best or second best golfer, ever.

We get it - you don't like him - but I don't think he's by any means a slacker. He's just not a guy who is willing to give up everything else in life to pursue golf as an obsession like Tiger.
6/11/13
 
jrbizzle says:
For the record - if golf was a team sport, I would be right next to you killing the guy for not giving 100% of his efforts. But that isn't golf. A man in this sport is entitled to his own life, as long as he conducts himself with class and pays homage to the game when he is playing. That's a page where Tiger should be following Phil's lead, big time.
6/11/13
 
ToddRobb says:
jrbizzle well said, but for me It's not personal, I think that's the problem here, for some strange reason I've touched a nerve with Phil fans by calling him an entitled slacker. If it wasn't personal for you I don't think you would have written your post. I tried to make it clear that it's just about golf, Falcon tried to blame me for the idiotic rumors about Phil that were on the internet three years ago. Like I stated, IF all of the rumors were true about Phil it wouldn't matter to me, I don't need to "know" about Phil's personal life good or bad. The funny thing about the stupid rumors with Phil was in typical Phil fashion he was so concerned about his image that he hired a team of lawyers to try to go after someone that started rumors about him on the internet,, yeah good luck with that. I find it interesting that several people agree with me on how did you put it "didn't get everything out of it", but take it personal when I call him a slacker. For the record, I don't like him BECAUSE he's a slacker.
6/12/13
 
slimpks1850 says:
I wished him nothing. It was all Phil, done by Phil. I'm just not a fan.

Curious, anyone think Phil will win this week?
6/12/13
 
jasonfish11 says:
"Falcon why not share your great story of when you ran into Phil and interrupted his dinner and he was great guy story, that's one of my favorites."

Is this true? Or Todd were you being facetious because you (or someone you know) interrupted his dinner and he was an asshole?

I mean I could be the dali lama, but if you interrupt my dinner you’d be lucky to not get punched in the nose.

Who the hell would actually interrupt some ones dinner? That person is the asshole here.
6/12/13
 
ToddRobb says:
No, it wasn't me I can assure you that. If I remember correctly, and I'm sure Falcon will correct me if I'm wrong, he saw Phil at a restaurant while dressed in his pilots uniform and approached Phil while eating and introduced himself, Phil was very gracious and spent several minutes speaking with him. My point at the time of hearing the story was exactly your point today.
6/12/13
 
jasonfish11 says:
So you think Phil is a nice guy (or nicer than me at least) but a slacker?

Because that story makes me actually like Phil more. Because I would have told some one to go pound sand if they walked up to me while eating.
6/12/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Being that you asked I will give you my opinion of Phil, I absolutely think he's a slacker. Like I stated, I don't know him so I can't say if he's a nice guy or not, Falcons story means nothing to me either way, I know someone that knows someone that knows Phil and I have heard stories from the dark side that don't mean anything to me either. But I do think he's as fake as a three dollar bill. It's all choreographed bullshit for the camera. The video above is typical fake dramatic reaction bullshit.
6/12/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Also, I have a family member that is in the baseball hall of fame, there were times when we would be in a restaurant eating with the whole family and someone would interrupt to make a introduction, as gracious as he was I can say without a doubt he did not enjoy it one bit. The cost of fame is high.
6/12/13
 
slimpks1850 says:
Clapping & giving the thumbs up to Justin Rose...
6/12/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Exactly!!!!!
6/12/13
 
ToddRobb says:
I was trying to punch him through the television when he was doing that.
6/12/13
 
falcon50driver says:
For god's sake rob you can't even remember what I said. You were tearing Phil up before, and I merely said I couldn't see what you were all in a huff about, because as far as I could see, he seemed to be a relatively personable guy. I was at the Byron Nelson Tournament, staying at the same hotel as a lot of the golfers. Pay attention now... I was coming down the elevator and it stopped at his floor and he and his wife and two girls got on. He saw my pilot uniform and HE STARTED the conversation. Which I thought was unusual that a celebrity would speak to a peon like me. We compared stats about our two airplanes and because of that I deduced that he was a nice guy. I would NEVER go up to anyone's dinner table. That's something you dreamed up in your hatred of Phil and me for sayin he seemed like an ok guy.
Maybe he's not an ok guy I just thought he was, because of the way he treated me. However I feel you aren't qualified to make that determination any more than I am.
6/12/13
 
ToddRobb says:
Wow, that story has changed a lot over the years, I clearly remember stating to you that I'm sure he enjoyed you interrupting his meal and you went on on how he was so interested in you being a pilot. But hey, whatever, if that's how you say it happened so be it. For the record I don't hate him or you, I said I don't like him because he's a slacker. How many times do I have to say it? slaaa keer,,, slaaa keeer,,, You picked at me by stating that I slandered your boy and now your getting all weepy on me by stating that I have hatred for you and him?? Let it go, it will be okay that not everyone is buying the sappy fake guy of the people bullshit that Phil is selling. I don't have to like the guy, and I don't hate you for liking him,, falcon ,,, it's just golf,,, relax.
6/12/13
 
DougE says:
Todd (and anyone else who has been contributing to this argument), here's something of interest I just read on Golfchannel.com by Jason Sobel regarding the love/hate relationship golf fans have with Phil. It says some things that have already been mentioned here and evidently Todd, you are not alone (but still seem to be of the minority opinion). Now that this OOB column is a week old, I realize not too many will see this. Wish I saw this before OOB pushed it off the first page. Oh well. www.golfchannel.com/news/joe-posnanski/to-love-a
6/15/13
 
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