Attention, Urban Golfers And Investors
By Torleif Sorenson on 6/3/14

DV8Sports - Kickstarter Video from DV8 Sports on Vimeo.


A business startup called DV8 Sports has begun a "crowd-funding" endeavor on Kickstarter. The company's positioning statement is "golf without obstacles." After five years and thousands of hours of R&D, they are ready to go public with their initial golf club campaign — provided they can draw enough investors via Kickstarter.

If you are a golfer living in crowded urban areas, and/or if you get around primarily in a tiny car, a motorcycle, or even public transit, DV8 Sports may prove to be a godsend. Even high-profile PGA instructor and part-time golf architect Rick Smith is on-board.


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Jattruia says:
I don't see this working out at all.
6/3/14
 
joe jones says:
I played with and was a representative selling a similar set about 20 years ago. They were not very playable but this set seems to have eliminated the faults. The set I had used a right and left hand thread at the connection points which were unstable. It looks like they have eliminated those problems with the quick connect system they employ. Also, the set I had came with steel shafts and blade heads that were very difficult to play.I sold quite a few sets mainly to traveling salesmen who wanted to take a set on a plane that would fit in the compartment above the seats. At this stage of my life I would not be interested in investing but would love to see the clubs and hit them just out of curiosity.
6/3/14
 
birdieXris says:
I also don't see this being a viable solution for true golfers. Anybody who is bringing their own clubs is doing so because they like their clubs and they take their game seriously. I don't see this being a serious set. The first thing the guy says is that they were worried more about the flex and swingweight, etc of the clubs rather than the size, but i didn't see anything that shows they achieved what they were looking for. IMO, the connector points are very near the flex points for the clubs that most need the flex. It just seems a little rickety. The connection is probably going to loosen up over time, leading to a rattle. Quick connects can't normally take that kind of torque and retain their stability. it's a stellar idea though.
6/3/14
 
legitimatebeef says:
If the usual OEM's got involved, this could be the tits.
6/3/14
 
bkuehn1952 says:
I don't see this working for people going on golf vacations. There might be something to it for urban golfers like LB but only if the set performed as well as a standard set. I can't see people maintaining two sets (one for "normal" golf and the other for "travel" golf). It would also be sort of funky assembling and dis-assembling the clubs as you play each shot. Kneel down, unzip the case, select the head and snap to shaft. Hit. Dis-assemble. Kneel down, insert head back into bag. Zip up case. Walk to next shot. Repeat. I would have to be convinced the process would be as easy as carrying a standard set and selecting a club.
6/3/14
 
joe jones says:
No kneeling down. The bag is easy to carry over your shoulder and the various club heads have shafts that offer the correct length when you attach them. All you have to do is reach in to easily pick out the iron you would normally hit. I usually carried the grip potion in my hand and could connect everything while I was walking. I quickly got used to the system.It's no harder than wiping off the heads with a towel.There was some lack of stability in those older versions that didn't allow them to play like a regular set. Watching the video it seems to me that they have gone out of their way to eliminate those problems. That would be my only concern. By the way. Falcon. The set I had was very popular with pilots that flew small aircraft. Took up very little space in a small cabin. I had one guy in Wisconsin that sold about 20 sets to other pilots.The company that made them was trying to advertise them in the airline magazine that is in the seat pocket on every commercial aircraft. It never got off the ground.
6/3/14
 
falcon50driver says:
Joe, a doctor I used to fly for, had the set you're probably talking about. We played the Four Seasons Course on the island of Nevis and they almost didn't let him on, because of the rule that each person have their own set of clubs, they claimed that it wasn't a set of clubs. I think they might have been worried about pace of play too. I just purchased a new bag for my trip Thursday to Providenciales, Turks and Caicos. We'll have 10 passengers and baggage, but my clubs are going, one way or another.
6/3/14
 
birdieXris says:
i just contacted these guys to try and get my hands on a 7 iron or something. If it's as good as the spec sheets do say i'm going to pimp it out to every store and golf course within 100 miles and get some demo days going - assuming they get back to me . they seem really responsive and eager to go live though so we'll see.
6/3/14
 
mmontisano says:
I live in an urban environment and these make perfect sense, but I'm not sure I trust those connecting ports. that, and I love my clubs too much and would happily slog through the crowd to be able to use my own set.
6/3/14
 
joe jones says:
Falcon. How did the set work out. What was your impression of their playability. The set I had as a demo had a 2 section main shaft with a left hand thread. The head shafts had a speed lock threaded with a right hand thread. The opposing threads were supposed to work against each other for stability but had a tendency to loosen. This new design appears to have a quick change feature that should eliminate that lack of stability. I also didn't care for the shafts which seemed too flexible. I used a stiff shaft in those days and those were too whippy. I always felt like I was waiting for the head to catch up much like an old time wood shaft would feel like.
6/4/14
 
jasonfish11 says:
I would think there would be pace of play issues with these things.
6/4/14
 
joe jones says:
Jason. I never had any feedback about the sets being cumbersome or causing any delay. Like any routine it took a couple of rounds to feel at home with the set but once I did they were fun and a great conversation piece. I just thought they were not sound technically and didn't perform up to a standards of a premium set of clubs. My regular set of clubs at that time was a set of McGregor,s which were about 10 yards longer through the bag.As a matter of fact I adopted one of my 'Big Ugly" putters using the same 3 piece connectors so I could take it on planes when I traveled. At that time rental club sets didn't offer a long putter which I use. I could take in my suitcase until 9-11 when security went nuts about just about everything. I still have it but don't use it any more.
6/4/14
 
MikeyPingJ says:
No way this will sell. They are not giving any idea of a price point. $500? $1000? Are there really that many "Urban" golfers that will buy this crap? Are golf bags really that big? How about a few clubs in a Sunday bag?
6/4/14
 
birdieXris says:
So, i'm not envisioning these ever taking off after talking with the guy handling the kickstarter and product. Basically it boils down to market - they have no plans to even approach or try to argue to make them conforming - which non-conforming is a big no no for a lot of golfers. Let's face it - if someone is going to invest in a set of clubs to "practice" or play golf in an urban setting, they're going to want real clubs so their buddies can't say they're using illegal equipment. Secondly, they've confirmed their target market isn't travellers, but rather people in urban centers and "the guy with the $40,000 harley who has to ride 10 miles to a driving range". My thoughts, if you have a harley or anyting like that - you have another car. If you're going golfing, you're going golfing, you're not going to plan a ride and say "Oh i better bring my clubs in case i want to hit balls". Lastly, the pricepoint is too high for what you're getting. A "full set" of clubs and bag is close to $700......
6/5/14
 
birdieXris says:
.... that's a lot for a non-conforming, unproven name, and getting, in essense, 50% less clubs than a brand name since there's only one shaft and grip. IMO, the real money for these guys - since they don't want to really make a golf club, but a non-conforming gadget, is to sell the patents to the big OEMs and make the money.
6/5/14
 
douglugg says:
their target market is not the traveler but the guy with the 2seater porsche or the harley; yet, the very first shots in this video are an airplane,a baggage claim, a travel case!?!?!?!
There's a ton of crap on kickstarter, just sayin ;)
6/6/14
 
douglugg says:
it IS neat though. And with all the adjustable hosel tech out there, i dont see this as too far of a deviation in technology. How well they perform and can they sell is the question, really.
6/6/14
 
jeffcroupier says:
I used to live in Manhattan, it was an hour or so subway and bus ride to get to the one range on the island, or a long ride on the 4 train to get in 9 holes at Mosholu... for me the biggest issue was the commute time, not the fact that was hauling a bag of clubs as opposed to a backpack.

I agree with the commenters questioning whether there's a market for this thing at all, even if they're aggressively priced.
6/6/14
 
trimarkgolf says:
Hello Torleif,

I noticed you did an article on Dv8 sports. We have currently launched a project on Kickstarter as well and would love your support with an article for our TRI Marker.

You can view our project at www.kickstarter.com/projects/11868792/the-spirit

Our website is www.trimarkgolf.com

Thanks so much!
6/25/14
 
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