Discussing Swingweight: Practical Application
As clubmakers, we have to address the subject of swingweight on our clubs, because it is a recognized measure that golfers’ rely on when they make a selection.
And almost all clubs you purchase are going to be in the range of D2, so they all feel pretty much the same in your hands when you waggle them in the shop or hit them on the course.
But as a wedge company, we understand that there are some variations we must take to improve the performance of our products.
Let me share the EIDOLON principles.
First, like most companies, we believe the sand and lob wedges should give the golfer a little more head feel, since these clubs are used in scoring shots with less than full swings, and must provide excellent “motion feedback”.
That’s what the biophysics guys call “feel” – your ability to sense where the clubhead is in the swing, and how fast it is moving. So, typically, you’ll find the 54 to 60+ degree wedges from most companies to be in the D5-7 range. Pitching and Gap wedges will tend to be about D3, just slightly heavier feeling than the irons.
Where EIDOLON differs from all other wedge companies is that we rely on the Rifle Spinner shaft for our steel option, and our own SCoR graphite shaft for golfers who prefer a slightly lighter wedge, which we strongly recommend for those playing lightweight steel or graphite in their irons.
Having your wedge shafts closely match your iron shafts in weight gives you a “seamless” transition to your scoring clubs.
Because these shafts are lighter than the 25-year-old Dynamic Gold “wedge” flex shaft used by other companies, they allow us to increase the mass in our wedge heads, which gives you more “oomph” through impact, especially helpful when you are hitting delicate shots at lower clubhead speeds.
So, because EIDOLON utilizes premium wedge shafts that are lighter than the industry norm, we can increase the mass in our wedge heads without increasing the swingweight.
We’ve never had a customer even notice our wedges are a little lighter overall, because our strict adherence to specification and the playing qualities of these premium shafts delivers the feel that golfers are seeking and are used to.
In the next post, I’m going to talk about what happens to swingweight, and what should happen, when you get fitted for over-length clubs.
In the meantime, keep your comments and questions coming.
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I am one of the guys who about two months ago asked a multitude of questions regarding swingweight. In fact, I even suggested it would be a good topic for an article. Who knows, maybe I was the catalyst behind your article...? OK, maybe I am not that egocentric. :)
I will repeat some of my original questions. All else being equal, what effect does swingweight have on clubhead speed vis a vis ball distance?
Assuming a precise matched set of clubs, would an E1 have any significant difference than a C1, as an example?
Since tour pros are largely believed to be able to discern no more than 2 swingweight points, which is still small, why do so many of them seem to have clubs of a high D swingweight range if they can have anything they want?
By accident or testing has it been proven that high D swingweights are the most effective? Reason I ask is that if C1 or E5 tested as being better, surely the pros would retrain their feel to "like" that weight club.
Would an amateur notice a difference in playability between a precisely matched set of clubs and an otherwise equal set that has widely varying swingweights from club to club?
Within reason, I don't think swingweight will effect distance or clubhead speed. I do believe, however, that added mass in the head can have advantages, especially on wedges, where clubhead speed is rather low very often. As for the high swingweights of tour pros' clubs, I can't comment on that, as I'm not sure that's correct. And finally, precisely matched clubs just make the game easier to play, regardless of your skill level. I think average golfers might even benefit more, as they do not have the practice time or skill that a tour professional does, making it that much harder to adjust club to club, if they don't match.
Tim Horan says:
I am going to take issue with you here, I am not saying that I am right, but...a couple of years ago prior to my last club change I convinced myself that I had been more consistant with my older wedges (two sets ago) with S400 shafts than the S300 in the now outgoing set. So when I bought new I had heavier shafts put in all of the wedges and lightweight steel shafts in 9 iron down through 3 iron. It worked for me, whether this is psyhological or not I cannot say. I believed at the time that the extra physical weight rather than swingweight gave a better feel around the green and kept my hands ahead of the ball. I will offer that I very rarely play flop shots and probably don't need to fire the head through as much as golfers who rely on flop shots more exclusively. The heavier shafts have worked well for me, but always one to tinker, I have to admit that I have just ordered Eidolon 48, 52, 56 and 60 degree wedges with your rifle spinner shafts to replace my ageing (two years) Kane Golf wedges...next stop new blades! I have a garage full of old clubs, I never get rid of any. I simply use them to experiment with shafts, lies, grips to build up a picture of what works and what doesn't. Come on guys!... be adventurous, Terry will help you here, if all else fails I can give you some thoughts on the matter.
Joe Hale says:
I have a Cobra "M" series wedge that is going on 6 years old now and I have been trying to replace it for almost two years now. I first bought a Ping MB then a Mizuno MP-T but they both felt heavy at the impact zone where the whip action takes place. The ball comes off these clubs with a dead feel and 10 to 15 yards shorter than my Cobra. The Cobra produces a higher ball flight with better hang time and softer landing. All the wedges have the Dynamic Gold "Wedge" shaft. Can you give me some advise?
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