Are you playing "antique" wedges?
Almost all golfers I run into are playing the same old 52/56/60 wedge combination they have played for years. Those have been the best selling lofts in wedges for nearly two decades. But stop to think about the fact that this combination became “the solution” when almost all irons had a true “pitching wedge” of 48 degrees of loft. So those wedge lofts made lots of sense to keep consistent gaps between them.
But how many sets of irons have you purchased and gone through since you settled on the 52/56/60 combination of wedges long ago? Two? Three?
The fact is that no golf company has made a set of irons with a 48 degree pitching wedge in nearly 15 years! Today’s irons are more likely to have a ‘P-club’ of 44-45 degrees than one of 47 or 48. And that makes your optimum wedge set make-up very different than it was “way back then”. In fact, with the strengthening of iron lofts over the past two decades, you’ve lost a wedge from your bag! The modern “P-club”, with its loft of 44-46 degrees, is just another short iron. You cannot “pitch” the ball with a club of that little loft. At slower swing speeds, it just cannot get the job done.
And if you are still carrying an “old” gap wedge of 52 degrees, you have a full-swing distance break right in “money range” that could be as much as 25 yards . . . maybe even more.
The solution to your scoring starts with a close look at the irons you are playing now. You need to know the loft of your 8-iron, 9-iron and ‘P-club” to put together a precision scoring range combination. You can find out the specs on your irons by doing a Google search of the make model and “specifications”. Only after you know what your irons are all about, can you put together the right combination of wedges to optimize your short range performance.
Once you know the starting point of your optimum scoring clubs, you can see what your ideal lofts should be. If you are an average-strength golfer, differentials of four degrees usually deliver the right results. Longer hitter can often benefit from reducing that to 3 degrees to tighten the full swing gaps. Shorter hitters can get by with wider gaps of 5 degrees. The key is to find out exactly what your “prescription” is, then get wedges to fill it.
Once you do that, many of you are going to find that your optimum set calls for a 49/53/57 and possibly a 61. Or 51/55/59 . . . 50/55/60 . . . 47/52/57 . . . the possible scenarios are almost endless. But your options aren’t. You either have to bend “other” wedges to hit your numbers . . . or see just why our new SCOR4161 offers 21 heads – every loft from 41 to 61 degrees.
I’m sorry if this came out as a “sales pitch” for SCOR4161, but if you understand why we did what we did, you’ll begin to appreciate this revolutionary package of scoring technology.
But you can at least bend someone else’s wedges to get closer to your right prescription than you probably are today.
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This topic has come up in the past and I think it is spot on. Right now I hit my pitching wedge about 130yds, my next club is a 52 degree wedge that I hit 112, followed by a 56 degree wedge I hit 100yds. Thats 100, 112, and 130. Meaning when I play those "old man" courses with the 115 - 120yds par 3's, I'm forced to choke down or take a 3/4 length swing.
the quest to find a club to fill that gap has kept me searching for wedges that match my irons and on to wedges of varying lofts (for a while I carried an iron matching PW that was 47 degrees, and a wedge that was 47 degrees: one of them went 130, the other 120. The only difference was the shaft) I totally agree with Terry's concept and after all my searching and experimenting I want to find that perfect blended club that transitions from my irons to my wedges. If I could completely overhaul my clubs, I would use KBS shafts from my wedges to my 4 iron and then I could cover that gap. I just changed to mizuno mp63s and so far I like my PW but I would love to try a Scor 46 to compare and a 50-54-58
My clubs loft and bounce are set at PW- 46/06, GW- 50/08, SW- 54/11
I've got 48/54/60. My irons are about seven years old but the lofts are old-school. Customization is great and all but at some point you have to decide on a setup and put in the work to learn how to hit the shots. Lets face it we are pathetic, for most of us a few tweaks of loft degrees here or there is re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Just a distraction from the real issue at hand. Sorry today is one of those days where I'm not having any of it.
You can unquote the "sales pitch". This article was clearly a SCOR ad, which is fine, as I do agree with what you guys are trying to do. However, if you are cognizant of the gaps, it's pretty easy to fill that hole with one properly lofted club.
I think SCOR is definitely ahead of the curve, hopefully not too far. With more hybrid use, and multiple wedges, it may behoove iron companies to make subsets so we can tweak our own setups. I'm currently only gaming 4 of my 7 irons that came with the set.
Where does the transition end though? If I bought a 5 piece SCOR set and implemented it, I would only need 2 or 3 clubs of my iron set, which can also be awkward.
I have the Adams cb2's. the P is 46 and the G is 50 so I went with the SCOR 54 and 58. They are the cats ass. $288 out the door after its all said and done was well worth it for me had my first chip in birdie of the season last week on 185yd par 3. no more blades no more chili dips just hop hop and stops from here on out.
Duke of Hazards says:
i was just thinking about this yesterday. i have a 20 yard gap in that range, will likely do something along the lines of bobhooe above. i'm liking that some club companies (like Adams) realize that there is a need for a GW in their iron sets.
i also love the quotes in some of my fellow oobers' posts... 're-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic' and 'the cat's ass' are a couple of gems. i'm gonna have to borrow those.
47-50-54-58; My deck chairs are comfortable and cushy.
My irons must be old in that my "P" is 46. I recently went to a 52 and 58 from a 52 and 56 - I find that the 6 degree difference provides more coverage and flexibilty. With 4 degrees my full swings and controllable half swings were overlapping too much.
The Scor website has a nice Scorfit function to help analyze your gaps/distances. Sure it exists to sell clubs, but it is useful so who cares. If I was in the market to buy, I certainly would love some SCOR wedges.
At some point, though, I'm with Dartboss. Taking the typical 4-S or 3-P iron set, if you lop off the top 1-2 for hybrids and the bottom 2-3 for blade wedges, which is what most of us should do, you are only going to use 4-5 clubs of the 8 club set.
I've got a 47* PW. I have a set of 3 eidolon wedges. 50, 54, and 58. I'll be giving them up for another brand custom fit wedges as soon as i get the money, but i'm still upset that i have to. They're seasoned nicely and have a nice, light, spin inducing rust on them. Just have to have stuff that is listed as conforming to avoid any potential craziness in the future.
My Cobra S2 PW is 43* from the specs on Cobra's website. Fits OK with my current 4 wedge setup of 48/52/56/60.
When I was originally shopping for irons, I almost bought just the individual irons I wanted, instead of the complete set, because I rarely used anything longer than the 6i in my set. I was even going to have them bent to match my wedge loft setup, to have 4* of loft in between each club, from my 60* LW to my 6i.
PW(47°)/52/56/60/64... Yes, I do carry a 64. Full swing distance distances are: 150/135/120/105/85
Matt F says:
My wedges are 48, 52 and 56 Eidolons and a 60 Cleveland. I just got a new set of irons 6, 7, 8 & 9 that are actually old school lofts, so they fit perfectly with my wedges.
47* PW 52/56/60
Distances: 118/100/90/80 yards
I would like to go 4 between all my irons like my set is but i only have the one gap of 5 so not to bad. if i had the $ i would get a 51/55/59 SCOR set.
Tim Horan says:
My last three sets of clubs MP33s, Kane 304s, and my Wishon 555ms all have the same loft settings. All have 48 degree PWs although since buying a wedge set of 48, 52, 56 and 60 degrees the standard wedge from the iron set gets garaged. Mizuno resisted the market trend to jack up lofts for a number of years and it was only 4 years ago that they succumbed to market pressure. All the others have progressively reduced lofts to sell clubs on the basis of how far you can hit them. How many of you Oobers know what lofts you are playing?
Nike offers a 48* wedge so when I ordered my clubs I had just ordered my set without a pw. It is best to try and purchase your set through a sales rep and then they can customize your set make up.
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